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Old Oct 11, 2005, 10:40 AM   #1
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As i may be getting a canon pixma ip6000D or a ip8500, on svp they sell ink carts by jettech for £1.80 a cart which is extremly cheap compared to the offical canon carts but has anyone try these jettech carts ? if so what are your experiance's with them? colour fade quicker than offical ?

Are official carts always better ?
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Old Oct 30, 2005, 3:31 PM   #2
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You got to appreciate there are differences between say Epson inks and Canon inks, the mechanical delivery is totally different.

Epsons are 'cold inks whilst Canon has to boil to produce the bubble, the air expands and 'pop's the bubble which splatters the paper in the correct place and sequence.

If it all possible you would be better sticking to Canon ink, if you do want to switch to alternatives then you would be better using formulated ink for the brand of printer you have whether Canon, Epson or any other printer.

It would be wise to stay away from so-called 'universal inks' other wise you 'may' run into problems sooner or later with clogging, as you need to be careful what you are sending down holes that are microns wide, plus the fact that Canon printers rely on the ink to stop the heaters in the nozzles burning out, akin to an electric kettle when switched on with no water inside, hence ink-jet for Epsons and bubble-jet for Canons

I took the bait and got a Canon ip5000 to replace the Clogging Epsons I had, they where cloggers in every sense of the word, the ip5000 is over 4 months old now and not one single clog or manual nozzle clean to date, mind you I use OEM ink, my Epsons clogged on the 2nd day the replacement six months later clogged on the 4th day with Epson ink at that.

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Old Oct 31, 2005, 4:34 PM   #3
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To Jedimaster and all due respects to Davy,

First, I note you are looking at Canon models that would fall into the catagory of
a dedicated photoprinter. Not something that is good at both plain text also. You are smart to avoid the new chipped Canon cartridge models.

Sadly, I have no experience with jettech cartridges. Davy is 100% correct in telling you to stay away from Universal inks. And third party non-oem ink cartridge suppliers are more limited in Europe than in the USA.--but by no means non-existant.

In terms of using non-oem inks and cartridges, the first question you must ask is what will my printing volume be? If its low, by all means use Canon Oem ink. At least for the warranty period.

But if your printing volume will be high the savings using non-oem become quite compelling. And we are talking about a factor of at least 10x cheaper in high ink use things like photoprinting. But when you choose Canon, make sure you get a dye base ink for the colors. Those nozzles are not designed for pigment inks.

But if you choose a good non-oem ink supplier, clogging is unlikely to be your concernwith a Canon. Your two big factors are more likely to be color match to Oem and how long the print will last. I just only now learning that the paper type used is a far more important factor than the ink itself in terms of the print lasting, manufacter hype to the contrary where they try to make it a big selling point. But non-oem ink is not as good for lasting from what I have read.

Color match is far more tricky. Some non-oem ink is very close to oem, others are very poor. And still others will give you a good color match and the next order may be poor because they switched suppliers. So you need to check out these suppliers which means looking at posts on these and other forums. As I recall the nifty stuff forums ( just google nifty stuff forums ) had some posts evaluating the set of European suppliers. But if you can find tests where others have evaluated a given cartridge choice you can also get in Europe, makes compiling a short list easier. Don't just look at one vendor, look at as many vendors as possible. Then pair down the list. Ring them up and talk to them if possible. Check out their return policy.

Finally you get to the stage where you pays your money and takes your choice. But if you buy a new printer you will have some period of time where you are still using the set of OEM cartridges that came with the printer.

And also rememeber that if OEM is 100% in terms of color match, no one else can exceed 100%. But even if an ink fails too be a perfect match you have some adjustments in your printer software or third party programs. And some users actually prefer the colors of non oem inks over oem inks.
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