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Old Aug 4, 2007, 1:52 AM   #11
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Another point is that local camera shops don't stock KLIC-8000 and chargers because they wouldn't sell any. One has tried to stock the cheaper KLIC-8000 substitutes & chargers, but can't currently obtain them. Even finding CR-V3 rechargeables and charger wasn't easy.

Post & packing add enormously to internet shopping, here in UK at least, so it's not as cheap as it seems, and delivery is problematical. eBay has possible pitfalls.
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Old Aug 4, 2007, 1:17 PM   #12
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Thanks a lot, Alan-

Your logic makes a lot of sense. I use a KLIC 8000 because I just took that battery out of my Z-612 and am using the charger from the Z-612 as well. So I guess I am rather lucky.

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Old Aug 4, 2007, 5:44 PM   #13
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Keeping good records again, I've just had a rechargeable CR-V3 shut down on me after a total of 242 shots in three sessions over three days in my Kodak Z712is. Two flash shots, little use of the LCD screen, lots & lots of zooming to and fro.

I'm very happy with that, and my previous 2 results are tolerable, so I think I'll be OK when carrying a spare charged one of those, one in the camera, and a disposable CR-V3 for when I get desperate.
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The rechargeable CRV3 sound like a viable answer to your battery problem.

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Old Aug 25, 2007, 4:06 AM   #15
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I ordered a pack of 2 CR-V3 + Charger quiet cheap from ebay and the following day saw a cheaper deal for a pack of 2 Klic-8000 compatibles (12€) and on another ebayer a charger for (7€), I only keept the first order because of some reports about incompatibilities between some batteries and chargers.

Happy to report they all work, great bargain for 18€/11,5£.
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Left to right: Rechargeable CR-3V, Kodak CR-V3, Klic-8000 Equivalent


About the batteries, it seems that CR-V3 with the same capacity as Klic-8000 »» 1600 mAh have diferent voltage ratings 3V vs 3,6V. That might be the reason for the lower warning time of low battery.
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Old Aug 25, 2007, 8:29 AM   #16
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About the batteries, it seems that CR-V3 with the same capacity as Klic-8000 »» 1600 mAh have diferent voltage ratings 3V vs 3,6V. That might be the reason for the lower warning time of low battery.
Thanks very much for that information. Have you actually measured the terminal voltages with a voltmeter?

If there is a difference among the three types (a) when fully charged and (b) immediately after camera automatic shutdown, this will confirm my suspicion that some 'rechargeable CR-V3' batteries have an extra voltage-dropping component to protect cameras from overvoltage that they mightexperience with a fully charged Li-ion when they were designed for a pair of AAs.

On the other hand, both my two 3-terminal 'rechargeable CR-V3' batteries exhibit over 3.8V across the camera terminals when fully charged, and over 4V across the charger and negative terminals. The 'Uniross' one says "3.7V" on its case, and the 'Digital' one says "3V".

So on that basis it's likely your "3V" is purely nominal, and wrong, and the "3.7V" rating is nearly right. When my Z712 gives up and shuts down the open-circuit terminal voltage of both batteries is always about 3.1V.

Even this figure is pretty meaningless, as some people get good performance from fully-charged pairs of Ni-MH cells, which will have an overall open-circuit voltage less than 2.8V at the start! What's more important is the voltage maintained by the cells under load, e.g., extending the lens barrel & zooming with the screen on, and some of the exposure & focus functions clicking away continuously.

My voltmeter has a useful battery test facility with standard resistors of 37ohms and 360ohms, and my batteries deliver about 72mA through 37 ohms when the camera's just shut itself down, and over 90mA when charged.

On my recent holiday I took over 1400 shots in 15 days on the Z712, and was very happy with my pair of batteries, under a regime where I recharged at least one of them once a day, and only saw the 'low battery' indicator twice. Some of my results, with which I am very well pleased, are gradally being sprinkled around these forums!

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Old Sep 16, 2007, 11:21 AM   #17
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Hi everyone,

I have been using these li-ion bat's for two months now. Excelent stuff. I have bought two of them and an charger. Itholds for more than a week at one charge per batt. And hey, this is not advertising as I've been passing throught the same problems as you all. I wish you all my best.

http://www.bestbatt.com/Kodak_KLIC_8...lic8000-01.htm
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I've also used replacement KLIC-8000's from www.bestbatt.com. They were so cheap, I ended up ordering 3 right away.

Very good service and very good performance from the batteries.

They are good for just about as many shots as the Kodak branded ones.
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R-CRV3 is not that bad.

I purchased the cheapest rechargeable CRV3 from ebay ($17 for 2 batteries and one charger with shipping fee included). Each one can take 200 pictures.
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Same exact battery as Kodak KLIC-8000 for 1/3 rd the price:

http://www.calcellular.com/klic-8000.html


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