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Old Aug 19, 2007, 2:51 PM   #11
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Wow, very nice! Thank you Sarah. I love that people in this forum are so helpful and give tips and ideas for taking better pictures.

I love seeing samples that you guys take.


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Old Aug 21, 2007, 9:56 AM   #12
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What exacly makes the Z712 better than the Z1275?
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 11:41 AM   #13
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Z712

- smaller CCD but yet less pixels i.e. pixel densities (related to noise) are similar

- has Optical Stabilization

- has hi-res electronic view finder

- longer zoom 12x

- seems the aperture at 12x (f/4.8 is even larger than z1275 at 5x (f/ 5.1)

- video max res is 640x480 vs Z1275's 1280x720


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In my view it's a combination of factors.Several of us have doubts that the 12MP 1/1.72 sensor on the 1275 will really deliver the high ISO performance of the 7MP 1/2.5 sensor of the 712. Other factors in the 712's favor include optical image stabilization and its EVF whichalso canreduce user induced camera motion. Beyond that the versatility of the 712's 12x (36mm-432mm equiv), which is also a bit faster than the 1275 lens, is hard to beat.

One of my camera requirements is an eye level (either optical or electronic) viewfinder because that's a steadier way to hold a camera. 712 has, 1275 doesn't. I am also a fan of optical image stabilization for any focal length over about 115mm equiv. Again only one of the cameras has that feature.

My judgements are based on the use of the camera as a still camera. While I can conceive of cases where I might want to shoot a video with my Z612 and I have tested the function those cases simply haven't occurred in real life.

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Old Aug 21, 2007, 12:23 PM   #15
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"...viewfinder because that's a steadier way to hold a camera....."

I hold the Z1275 like a DSLR i.e. let the lense rest on my left palm

(when at 5x zoom the lense has extruded out long enough)

quite effective :-):-):-)


But to be honest, the larger hand-grip design of Z712 is naturally more stable (but bulkier)


AND I think the max shutter time of Z712 SHOULD BE a bit longer than z1275 (8s only)

But unfortunately (and obviously), Kodak website mistakenly put it as :

Shutter speed
1/2–1/1000 sec. in 1/3 step increments

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I hold the Z1275 like a DSLR i.e. let the lense rest on my left palm

If that's how you took your Nathan Road picture then you have steady hands. Maybe target shooting should be your next hobby. :-)
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Old Aug 21, 2007, 12:57 PM   #17
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Again, thank you guys so much for your help. I'm 99% sure I'm going for the Z712 now. I just have to wait until they get some in stock now.

This camera comes expensive though, compared to the Z1275, because of the Klic-8000 battery and (MOSTLY) a charger or dock for the Klic battery which they don't even carry around here (both the charger and Klic-8000 battery).
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I hold the Z1275 like a DSLR i.e. let the lense rest on my left palm

If that's how you took your Nathan Road picture then you have steady hands. Maybe target shooting should be your next hobby. :-)
To be fair, I think my picture taken at 1/20sec shutter speed, didn't require too steady hands. An average, non-shivering photographer could do as well.

However I did use naked hands to hold the z1275 for up to 1sec, but still got fairly clear pciture. I'll show you later.

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