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Old Dec 14, 2005, 4:45 PM   #21
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Before getting my P850 I went to BBuy and played with the Sony H1. Took a ton of shots and they turned out INCREDIBLE!. Nokidding, it is one awesome cam!

The reasons I chose to pass it up were:
(1) limited expandability (lens/flash attachments)
(2) confusing menus (just my personal opinion, but ive been used to easyshare)
(3) uses sony memory sticks (i like sd cards since my Palm PDA uses them)
(4) No zoom in video mode
(5) price was out of my budget ($500 range)

AGAIN the SONY H1 is a GREAT cam!

one thing I liked in particular was how fast it was, on startup, on Zooming, and on shooting. It flies compared to the P850.

back on track,, everyone has different personal preferences. Again, 'no perfect cam" only because each person has different needs. What works for one does not work for another.

wait, what was this thread about I forgot,, oh ya , "AF assist lamp".
Does the Sony H1 have that?
Just curious

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Old Dec 14, 2005, 9:35 PM   #22
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techgeek419 wrote:
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wait, what was this thread about I forgot,, oh ya , "AF assist lamp".
Does the Sony H1 have that?
Just curious
I also try on Sony H1, have "AF assist lamp", one thing H1 don't have: hot shoe.
Still waiting P850 for xmas sale :-)
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Old Dec 15, 2005, 8:52 AM   #23
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Hi,

the price-relations in Germany are different from the USA or the UK.

A sony h1 costs about 350,-€ (on internet),
a kodak p850 about 390,- €.

As I shoot night-photos very seldom, an AF-assist light is a very important feature for me to get good photos (especially as it's often rainy and clouded in our country).

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Old Dec 17, 2005, 4:41 PM   #24
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As I shoot night-photos very seldom, an AF-assist light is a very important feature for me to get good photos (especially as it's often rainy and clouded in our country).

Regards peter
confused?? :?

IF you shoot at night "very seldom" then why would the featurebe "important"?
That does not make sense.

It is common for high zoom cams to perform poorly in low light with telephoto.
It's just the way the techology works.
An AF assist lampmay or may not improve it, but it doesnt make it flawless.

I actually had a Kodak z740, which has the AF lamp, and the performanace was not acceptable, so I returned it. Oddly enough, the P850 without the lamp has worked better.


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Old Dec 17, 2005, 8:12 PM   #25
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You have to remember that Peter is from Germany and sometimes, though not often gets a phrase wrong. He may have meant often instead of seldom. Either way, Peter if the assist lamp is a neccessity then by all means hunt one up. I've not really needed one and have shot in a lot of dark and overcast situations but I'm not you and can't make decisions like that for you. Like I said if it is something you think you just have to have then you'll need only to look at cameras that have it! Hope to see some photos from you in the near future!



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Old Dec 17, 2005, 8:51 PM   #26
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techgeek419 wrote:
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It is common for high zoom cams to perform poorly in low light with telephoto.
It's just the way the techology works.
Agreed with techgeek, for telephoto maybe the AF lamp distance just limited, so become not effective.

One more thing about the AF lamp, if have the camera should have option whether able to turn on/off. I encounter one problem when I take some photos in night safari, cause my camera AF lamp, can't be turn off, seem it's quite irritating. You will make the animal notice when you want to shoot them :-)
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Hi,


indeed, I made a mistake and meant 'often' instead of 'seldom'.

My English-knowledges are very bad and I didn't write or speak English since my university-time. That's been for about twenty years.

Although I'm teacher and have a lot of holidays I go to France (the wheather is there better than in Germany) or to the french-speaking countries in Northern Africa.
I use this forum, too, to refresh the knowledges in languages.

So, once again, I beg your pardon.

Another reasons, why I bought the sony, is the very bad Kodak-service in Germany and the lower price of that camera.

Regards peter



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Old Dec 18, 2005, 9:34 AM   #28
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I think you do quite well with the English language. Much, much better than most of us in the USA !! LOL Peter how is that camera working out for you??

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Old Dec 18, 2005, 9:42 AM   #29
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@bigdawg,

I 've a lot of fun with this camera.
The beginning was very hard for me and I made a lot of mistakes. The first photos were awful and I had to destroy?? them.
But there is a great help on the Internet. There is a White paper (of A. Katz) of a professional photographer, which helps to make the right adjustments.

I make progresses and I've learnt to learn.

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