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Old Dec 27, 2005, 12:09 AM   #1
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I am debating getting the C360 for $171.53US ($199.99CND).It is one of Steve's top choices for the 5mp P&S Cameras. The problem is I have reada review from both amazon.com and dpreview.comand it'smaking me hesitate. If I had the money I would go with the Canon Powershot A610 but there are no sales on that camera and I can't find, and don't think I will find it for anywhere near as cheap as the C360 boxing day special at futureshop.ca. I would rather get the Canon but I don't have $350-400CND to burn. I have around $200-250 and that's it. In the end I'drather have no camera than spend that $250 on something I won't be happy with.

The negative review in question seems to be from one guy in peticular who has copied and pasted near identical reviews on the C360for both dpreview.com and amazon.com. There is only one reveiw for the C360 at dpreview and that's his, at amazon there are 7 and 2 aren't good but the rest give 5 stars or close to it. I wouldn't think Steve's digicam site would post the C360 as a top camera if it wasn't areally great camera all aroundbut I don't know what to think now. Maybe it does take horrible still shots. I don't know what leads steve's digicams site to it's conclusions or what kind of tests the equipment is put through. How do I know if this negative review I am reading is credible or not? For the price this kodak is going for it seems to be the right choice for me at this time but I am worried I will get a lemon. I'm not a wealthy man so if I am stuck with a lemon I will be stuck for a considerable amount of time.

I am posting the review in questionfor your consideration, please give me your opinions.

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I have used over 15 digital cameras. this is one of the worst ones.
The Kodak lens focuses down to 24 inches when in the normal settings. The Canon
focuses down to 8 inches. The Kodak is easily set to close-up setting but I found a
problem when using flash. The flash would not go off. See the shots for examples.
I took many shots with different subjects and ambient lighting but the shots were
all failures. I kept the camera's default settings. The A300 had no problem with
these shots. I was never able to get a good close-up exposure.
Indoor skin colors appeared dark. The sample photo was taken under a florescent
light. The color was similar to one taken under tungsten.
Exterior shots were usually good. however many shots had unrealistic color.
The C360's body is excellently designed. The controls are well placed. The optical
viewfinder is big enough to be useful.

The C360 is fast in shot to shot times even with flash.
The camera is not recognized as a mass storage device on my Mac. It was necessary
to install the Kodak software that is too limiting for me. It does work but
the camera could not be connected to another computer , like on a trip, without
loading the software onto each computer.
The photos in this gallery are straight out of the camera and taken at default
settings.


The new Kodak C360 is compared here to a 2 year old Canon A300. The Canon has
served me well. It is kind of like a Timex. It just keeps on taking good pictures. It
seldom takes a poor shot. It's flash is weak and slow. The movie mode, 640x480 at
15 fps, is still better than most new cameras but I would like more frames. The
C360 movie clips do look smoother than the Canons. The microphone position
seems to pick up less wind noise. Exposure changes when panning across dark and
light areas. The Canon keeps the first exposure setting until the end of the clip. The
Canon is limited to 30 seconds while the Kodak can go until the memory card is
full. The Kodak uses mpeg-4 so the files are much smaller than the Canon's motion
jpeg. The Kodak's speaker is very weak. I like the audible feedback provided by the A300. The C360 can only be heard when things are very quiet even with the sound level set to high.

Too bad it has serious problems with still shots.

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Old Dec 27, 2005, 11:22 AM   #2
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if you want to know how does Steve rank the cameras, the best thing to do, is read his reviewhttp://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/c360.htmlAlso, check the sample pictures taken by him, and you can compare them with other cameras samples, he normaly takes the same subjects in all his camera reviews.
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Heffty, hello and welcome. First I have to say I don't put a lot of trust in a quick review of a camera. You have to use it and learn it for awhile before you know how it reacts and how to adjust it. I went and read that fellows review and looked at his photos. The exif data just doesnt match up for both cams. You can't compare a shot with flash to one WITHOUT flash( as in the pic of the camera on the desk)That was the second set of pics I chose to compare andthats when I stopped wasting my time looking at his photos.

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"A trusted member here, BigDawg, recently purchased a c340 and has posted some very nice shots with it( check his posts). the 340 and 360 are pretty similar though you get more extras on the 360 and I would expect similar results on both.

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I have used my wife's C340 quite a bit now and like it a lot. Is it as good as a 300-400 dollar camera. No! Is it well made and does it perform as expected? Yes. You can get a lemon in any brand and any price range. As for the photos being bad or underexposed, That's because someone did not know how to use the camera. Will it take as good of photo's as a 6490? In a lot of cases yes. Then when you go beyond what the camera was designed to do you get hit or miss results. You can believe the review you've read or consider that he might be Ax grinding with that review. Sounds more to me like he has not really tried to learn his camera. Here are some snap shots my wife took today! She is just your average house wife and hasn't shot a camera hardly at all. Today I was having to eplain how the zoom works. So what you see here is just some of her snap shots!

No.1 Shooting directly into the sun. She spotted some white haired old geezer and shot him!
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After learning how to zoom she took these!

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It's really a compact pocket sized point and shoot camera with some very nice features. My wife shot all of those on an overcast day without a tripod and bad hands. Heck she just today learned what zoom is and how to shoot a level photo! If she can use it I'm sure you'll do well.

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Yeah those pictures look pretty nice. I ended up getting this camera (C360). I wish I could have got the Canon 610 but it is pretty much twice the priceof the kodak. Again, I was just going with quick reviews but it seems the 610 was the best camera at 5mp. I hope the Kodak will serve me well and I won't always be thinking "what if?"...like if pictures don't turn out orI can't get a shot I would think, hmm, I wonder if that 610 would have got it. That's just how I am I guess.
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I bet she was thinking along these lines.


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She's been there once before and didn't pull the trigger Paul. Sometimes begging and pleading on your knees does help! LOL Nice take on my phrasing!

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