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Old May 29, 2006, 8:07 PM   #1
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Hello all,

I recently purchased a Kodak P850 and I'm very pleased with everything except the macro. I LOVE taking photos of flowers, but the photos I've gotten so far haven't been so great. I just can't get close enough.

I've read a bit on wide angle and telephoto lenses, but I still haven't found anything specifically for macro. Is there any way I can improve the macro on my camera, either with lenses or tinkering with the basic camera? I don't have that much money to spend, so any affordable recommendations would be appreciated. I know not to buy the cheapo lenses, though. I've seen some "fisheye/macro" lenses online...what the heck are these things? Are they worth it (or are they worthless)? I don't need any additional zoom or wide angle capabilities, just macro. Any ideas?

Also, is it true that I can put ANY 55mm lens on the P850? I need an adapter tube, right? Are there any lenses that can attach directly to the P850 without an adapter? Can I use film lenses from old SLRs? And of course, are there any macro lenses for the p850?

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Old May 29, 2006, 10:43 PM   #2
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There are none that attach directly to the lens that I know of. Get the Kodak brand adapter if you don't have it then go here for a fairly inexpensive closeup lens set!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

It will help bring those shots in closer! They are stackable too so you can play around with different combinations! A fish eye lens will widen the angle so much that you are defeating the effort to go macro. Not to mention the distortion that fisheye lens always impart to the photo! Most SLR lens are primary lens and do not work with digital cameras! Filters on the other hand and close up lens that are normally listed as filters anyway do work with digital cameras! After looking at the ones I listed above go here and scroll down the page looking at the different ones available! Most are listed as +1, +2, +3 ....Etc. They are actually diopter lens that magnify the photo for you. +1 being the least and +2 the next as it doubles the size of the object in the photo! +3 would increase the size by 3 times....I think you get the picture!

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Old May 29, 2006, 11:04 PM   #3
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Wow...thanks!

Do these filters take away from the image quality at all? Would you recommend any certain brands or types? Any brands I should stay away from? Do I need an adapter for these?
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Old May 29, 2006, 11:10 PM   #4
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An adenndum...If you are not using the macro mode on the camera then be sure that you do! Don't Zoom in on the object! Move in close up to the object! Use the normal wide angle and go with A mode in pasm and adjust the Arperture to get those closeup shots! Keep the ISO at 200 or less according to the available light. Less is better if the light will let you get away with it! Center Zone and Center Weight on the Focus and the Exposure metering respectivly! Use a tripod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like shooting with a long Zoom shot you need a Tripod or stable mount of some kind to take the shake out of those tight shots. Even need it more with the closup lens. Over time you may become steady enough to take closeups without one but while learning please...Please use a tripod! What I've just given is the way I do it with my DX6490 and most will translate to your P850.. Having said that you have to practise with your camera in lots and lots of different lighting and different targets! Don't forget that polorizer filters and UV filters can help tone down reflective light and bring out better richer colors too! Especially for outdoor sunlit shots! Go have fun and Shoot and shoot and shoot some more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old May 29, 2006, 11:16 PM   #5
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I have been using the Macro AF, A mode, etc. I still just can't get close enough. I had better results with my Nikon and Canon tiny point-and-shoots. I definitely need to try using a tripod, but I used to love getting great macro photos with just one snap (from my Nikon and Canon p&s).

I found this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation
It's used, but it says "very clean"...Is Hoya a good brand? I should get only 55mm lenses right?

Should I go to B&H Photo in NYC? Do they have a bigger selection in store than online?
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Old May 29, 2006, 11:20 PM   #6
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The standard Kodak adapter fo r the P850 will work!! If you don't have one go here to buy it!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

It only costs about 20 bucks plus shipping and handling! If your money is tight then go for the general brand set. They are only again about 20 bucks for a set!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...goryNavigation

If you want slightly better quality but at a little higher price go for the Tiffen set!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...&Submit=Go

If you want the best then go with either the Hoya or the B+W!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...&Submit=Go

Here is a used set of Hoyas for 22 dollars plus shipping and handling!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ed&Q=22747

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I've never been to the store as it is entirely too far for me here in North Alabama to travel there! They are usually very good with their discriptions and ratings of used equipment! I bought all used Polorizer filter and Sky 1-A filters and they were like new even though they said shows signs of use! As far as the Tiny cameras go remember they weigh less so are easier to hold still longer! Believe me after you practise for a while you should be able to get the same shots as good or better than with the point and shooters! My wife's C340 Kodak does an excellant job but she can't add polorizing filters or UV filters or Any of the many hundreds of filters and lens available to you with the P850!

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Thank you so much for all of the wonderful information. I might take a trip into the city to check out B+H. I'll either get the magnification lenses or see about selling the camera back...we'll see!

In the meantime...do you have any sample photos (that you've taken) that demonstrate the quality or usefulness of these lenses?
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I don't use them but a lot of my friends do! Go here and sign up then look at the posts by Muskateer! Charlton is always trying to get closer!!! LOL

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