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Jeff Mirkin Aug 27, 2002 10:35 AM

Buy 7i, but...NOISE???
 
I've done a lot of research and I'm planning on buying the 7i...but all of these 'noise' posts are scaring me. I've checked different sites for sample photos and the 7i, 5700 and 707 all look GREAT to me. I need someone to send me to a specific site, with specific photos, with specific explanations about where the noise is. If I finally see it I may decide that I don't like it. However, If I'm noise blind then I guess it doesn't matter. I will never be printing photos larger than 8X10.

Please help!!!

Jeff

NHL Aug 27, 2002 11:58 AM

Do you think these D7 owners worry about noise?

http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?cameraId=329

... but if you do to want to find out more, see over here:

http://www.stevesforums.com/forum/vi...ad.php?tid=623

fotograafdigi Aug 27, 2002 4:06 PM

noise on 8x10
 
There's some noise, but not as bad as some say. for 8x10 or smaller, its not an issue. for larger prints you'll need some software processing to resample, and maybe, in some cases, reduce noise a bit. However, the definition of 'bad' noise varies, so try before you buy.

Jeff Mirkin Aug 27, 2002 4:14 PM

Thanks for your input. It's sounding like the noise isn't going to be a problem for me. Unless I can control myself, I think that tomorrow I'll buy the 7i!

Jeff

NHL Sep 14, 2002 6:44 AM

Minolta Official line
 
Quote:

... the camera itself cannot distinguish 'noise' from 'precise information' which is often important to express texture of the image; excessive noise reduction may reduce 'precise information', which may ruin the texture of the image depending on the recording condition such as subjects, weather, brightness, shutter speed, etc.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read....essage=3380675

rikster Sep 15, 2002 2:35 AM

The only noise is the sound of the wind blowing between the ears of those posting this nonsense.

NHL Sep 15, 2002 8:27 AM

Well you should point that to Phil @ dpReview. The Nikon gang benefit plenty from his biais viewpoints: Where are the CP5000 voices now that touted last year the superiority of their camera over the D7? Moving on to the 5700... I guess, one year behind, and still plagued by the same battery issues? The same reviewer made three glaring mistakes again, and he still @ it!

All one has to do is flip a camera setting on all version of the D7 from 'normal' to 'soft' and voila! What noise? Myself, I prefer the detail an leave it on 'normal'. Doesn't everyone wished that their camera can do the same or let some logics conveniently truncate all the good data?

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read....essage=3358391

sjms Sep 15, 2002 12:38 PM

i second that of rikster and nhl.

here is a photo i took at a little gathering to listen to The California Guitar Trio on 9/09/02. the lighting was simple- 1 torchier lamp in the far corner of the double parlor. thats it. popped up the peanut strobe on camera and gave it a whirl. AF worked well. and so did the strobe considering the light level and the distance of 8-10 ft. i'm not real found of the built in flash but here it worked. obviously not a art photo. more of an archiving. EXIF- 1/60 f3.5 iso200 18.2mm. Mr. Hideyo Moriya of CGT.


[Edited on 9-15-2002 by sjms]

[Edited on 9-16-2002 by sjms]

rikster Sep 15, 2002 7:48 PM

Wow colors are excellent. The flesh tone is right on. Remember you have to allow phil some leeway he is a brit. They still think they won both WW1 and WW2. I guess no one has the heart to tell them in one word.... USA. Oh well. I guess that is why our ancestors left europe. The need a big tea party over there and soon.

sjms Sep 15, 2002 8:59 PM

be nice. it was a group effort.


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