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RobT Sep 26, 2004 5:34 AM

I have just seen a website that shows a Konica Minolta A200. Is this a new product?

I have never seen or heard of it before, is it an updated version of the A2, it appears very similar in spec. It has not been reviewed on this site as far as I can see.:?

JimC Sep 26, 2004 12:09 PM

The A200was announced by Konica-Minolta on September 15th (although there were some "leaks" of photos of the camera before that).

Here is the press release on it:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/mi...4_a200_pr.html

It's not shipping yet (my guess is that it will most likely be November before you'll find it on store shelves, but this is only speculation).



RobT Sep 29, 2004 6:37 AM

Thanks for the reply,

I checked with KonicaMinolta and the A200 will be on the shelves for sale in November ( IN THE UK). They could or would not pass on any details on the price.

It would be nice to see if the image quality is any different to the A2.

xylem Sep 29, 2004 5:29 PM

Just by comparing the advertising pics to my A2, it seems the major change is the addition of a variable angle LCD (now opens to the side).

To accomplish this it appears they have moved a number of dials and buttons, especially from the left side (to accomodate the LCD hinge). BUT, more importantly, it appears they have eliminated some things:

-the Top Data Panel is gone

-the grip sensor is gone

-eyepiece shortened (still adjustable?)

-magnification button gone

-flash synch, digital effects controller, focus mode switch (gone?, gone?, gone?)

Seems like a lot of changes just so people can take self portraits, lol.

-my 2cents

CastleDude Sep 29, 2004 6:26 PM

http://www.steves-digicams.com/image..._variangle.jpg

Looks like the mag button is above the 4 way "joystick" and has an mag+ and mag- option.

It might be just the angle but I don't see the automatic switch sensor between the eyepiece and display. And if it does have it I would want that switch to make it manual once in a while.


External flash sync and top display missing would not be fun for me. It also seems tohave only one wheel control. In manual mode this would not bevery easy to set aperature and speed.

I'm also now used to having and recalling settings quickly. I imagine it still has them but it looks like it will be a few more steps to save and restore them.

RobT Sep 30, 2004 4:40 AM

I agree with castledude,

It would not be much fun without a top display, I am new to all this and I'm looking to get a new camera. I have a kodax DX4530. I havebeen looking at the A1 and A2 but just saw the A200.

I have very limited knowledge on the specs of the cameras and what they actually mean. Here is the website I have been looking at http://konicaminolta.com/products/co...age/index.html

Please take a look it might answer some of your questions and I would be interested in veiws in comparing the A2 & A200. :?

NHL Sep 30, 2004 7:09 AM

It looks to me like the EVF is also degraded (922000 vs 235,000 on the A200) and non-tiltable, with no diopter adjustment either!
-> the A200 seems like a defeatured A2 to meet a price target or audience ;)

Sound like a DRebel vs 10D comparison, with features like flash compensation also disabled on the A200 as well as the various colorspaces mapping for the output pictures... :-):-):-)

CastleDude Sep 30, 2004 1:06 PM

RobT wrote:
Quote:

I have very limited knowledge on the specs of the cameras and what they actually mean. Here is the website I have been looking at http://konicaminolta.com/products/co...age/index.html
Maybe I'm reading something into that site but It looks like the cameras are shown in orderfrom best to worst. Based on that, the A200 is below the A1 and above the Z3so they may be trying to sandwich in something in that gap of pricing/performance.

This is not a new and improved A2 but a filler camera for the people intimidated by all the knobs and functions of the A1/A2. It will be interesting to see if the defaultfirmware adds more sharpening and saturation by default to give a more "friendly" picture default out of the box.


Technophile Oct 4, 2004 7:03 AM

That's right. It's an A2 built down to a price for people who don't necessarily want all the bells and whistles. If it were a successor I guess they'd have called it the A3.It's a real pity about the loss of the 1Mp EVF though. That's one of the A2's best featuresIMO.

RobT Oct 4, 2004 10:59 AM

Ok I can see what your all saying,

I'm just starting out in digital photography. Do you think this might be a good camera to start with? I know it's quite hard to answer without trying the camera or having many sample images or even a price! Just by looking at the specs would this be ok or should I just go for the A1 OR A2 ( I have recently looked at the write up's for the Panasonic FZ-20 which appear quite good.

I THINK I'M JUST CONFUSEING MYSELF:?

I would like the camera to have a good zoom, good quality pictures, anti shake system and take photo's well in lower light conditions. I would like to take photo's of fast moving sports outside and try some more challenging photographs to improve my photography.

( I like the idea of setting the camera up to take the pictures how I like them)

NHL Oct 4, 2004 3:51 PM

It's two different animals (or Apple and Oranges)

The FZ20 has a nice zoom lens to go for... while the A2 is a more serious camera with more features than some dSLRs - RAW format capability, various colorspaces as well as the TTL wireless multi-units flash are important features not addressed by the Panasonic (or care for by most FZ20 buyers) ;)

Are you serious in photography or just want to shoot long stabilized tele with no hassle?

RobT Oct 5, 2004 3:23 AM

I am fairly serious, I do not sell photographs or anything like that, they are mainly for my own enjoyment. i used to take alot of photo's when i was younger and develop them myself with my father.

I brought my wife the kodax dx4530 last year and I have recently used my father's A1. I have been amazed at what people can do with digital photography.

This site hashelped inspired me to get back into photography along with using my father's and wife's cameras. I'm JUST NOT SURE WHICH CAMERA TO GET .

( A1, A2, A200, Panasonic FZ-20 ):|

NHL Oct 5, 2004 10:44 AM

Well you have to decide first if the telephoto is more important than the wide angle. This will pretty much determine which camera right away ;)

Beside the resolution difference, there's a lot more features on the Minolta than the Panasonic, again it all depends on how much post-editing you want to play with (or not bother). The Minolta will allow to shoot fast burts in RAW while this is not even possible on the FZ20, also the mapping to various colorspaces which is absent on the Pana.

If you like fast zoom however then the FZ20 is hard to beat.

RobT Oct 5, 2004 1:23 PM

I Like the zoom the lens on A2 and A1 I have not tried the Panasonic yet I would like a wider field of view on my pictures, but get close in as well.

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"I think the FZ-20 does not have as much wide angle as the A2 and A1.

NHL Oct 5, 2004 2:49 PM

Sounds like the A2 is your pick... my too, I much prefer the wide angle to the tele ;)

RobT Oct 6, 2004 3:02 AM

Thanks NHL

The A2 was the first camera I was going to purchase, but I got myself confused with all the reviews and different peoples opinions. I think your right and I will go for the A2. All I have to do is raise the funds!!

Thanks again for your help.:-)

NHL Oct 6, 2004 7:05 AM

FYI

http://www.pbase.com/mtf_foto_studies/mtf_faq


Also check this out: http://home.tiscali.be/johan.branders/A1/A1-focus.htm
... the A2 just have one of the best EVF [Period]

RobT Oct 6, 2004 7:39 AM

Thanks again NHL

I have seen the first website before and found it quite informative. The second one also looks very good and I'm sure it we help me when I get my camera!

Cheers again.

RobT

rvand Oct 8, 2004 6:06 PM

I'm looking for a very decent digicam and am considering both the Canon G6 and one of the 8 megapixel Minoltas. For whatever reason, there are already a number of G6 reviews out there including Steve's site. I wonder when Steve is going to review the A200? Anyone know?

I'd also be interested to hear about other "reader's" experiences with the A2. Does anyone here have any particularly telling experiences, both positive and negative? Most reviewers gave it a "very good" to "amazing" rating (Michael Reichmann especially). I'm concerned about the quality control has that been addressed by now and no longer an issue? I'm also curious about its flash connectivity capabilities... again, any comments?

RobT Oct 9, 2004 3:20 AM

rvand

I do not not know enough about digital photography at the moment to even try and answer this question.

You might get a better reply if you post it in " What camera should I get " forum or even the " Konica Minolta " forum as a new topic. I have found that NHL and castledude often send in very good replies to any questions you might have.

I hope this helps you

RobT

NHL Oct 9, 2004 8:23 AM

rvand wrote:
Quote:

Does anyone here have any particularly telling experiences, both positive and negative? Most reviewers gave it a "very good" to "amazing" rating (Michael Reichmann especially). I'm concerned about the quality control � has that been addressed by now and no longer an issue? I'm also curious about its flash connectivity capabilities... again, any comments?
I can't speak about QC since I don't know anything about it... :O

On the flash connectivity however I'm quite familiar with it: http://www.friedmanarchives.com/flash.htm
They are the original inventor of this wireless system (leading Canon by a decade and then Nikon just caught up recently last year)! ;)


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