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Edward_dee Jun 22, 2003 1:07 AM

7Hi good for Lightning Photos?
 
I'm into photographing lightning and storms at night.
I've been using the Nikon 990 for years, but am fed up with it's
slow capture speed and lousy noise/dead pixels with this cam.
I've exhausted this cams uses and am ready to move on.

The Minolta 7Hi seems to be my next choice from what I've
read in the camera reviews. But those reviews are based on
average lighting conditions.

I'd appreciate any comments regarding low-light or similar
uses to capture lightning weather via the 7Hi from users.

I'd also like to know if the 7Hi suffers dead pixels like my
Nikon has.

Thanks for any info!

ramses_42 Jun 23, 2003 12:16 AM

Ed,

Stay with Nikon and upgrade to their newer cams.
Minolta cams are decent, but not what you want.
They're still "wannabees".

Nikon glass is reason enough over Minolta.

IMO.

sjms Jun 23, 2003 6:17 AM

ah, those of little knowledge. as a nikon glass owner/user for 15yrs (F5 and 2.8 glass) the lens on the 7Hi is outstanding. actually the operation of this camera is the closest thing to an true slr out today in that class

you will run into noise in all digicams using long exposure. neat image is the brillo pad most people who have a clue use today to reduce that unsightly side effect of the digital world when used properly. yes i even use it with a 1Ds.

NHL Jun 23, 2003 7:50 AM

I agree with sjms...

The 'G' in Minolta nomenclature refers to their high-end lens line with APO elements. This is also one of only a few cameras that can go as wide as 28mm, can accept a regular filter with no adapter and CA free too! 8)

With features like Direct Manual Focusing overide, WYSIWYG, real-time histogram, and 3fps in RAW as well as selectable AdobeRGB colorspace, may be the other cameras are the "wannabees" in this price range! :lol: :lol: :lol:

As for low-light: http://www.pbase.com/nhl/daynight_comparison

Edward_dee Jul 5, 2003 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjms
ah, those of little knowledge. as a nikon glass owner/user for 15yrs (F5 and 2.8 glass) the lens on the 7Hi is outstanding. actually the operation of this camera is the closest thing to an true slr out today in that class

you will run into noise in all digicams using long exposure. neat image is the brillo pad most people who have a clue use today to reduce that unsightly side effect of the digital world when used properly. yes i even use it with a 1Ds.

SJMS,
"Neat Image" is OK for some stuff, but any educated Photoshop
user can do that kind of PIA editing themselves.

I was interested in whether the camera was good at capturing
lightning images with as little noise as possible from the camera.

Edward_dee Jul 5, 2003 2:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NHL

Thanks for the link NHL, but I suspect I'm not getting my question
made clearly enough... or perhaps no-one else uses a digital
camera to capture lightning images?

sjms Jul 5, 2003 6:34 AM

neat image will out perform PS in the aspect of noise reduction 9 out of 10 times WHEN USED PROPERLY. the basic issue is that a good 70% of people DO NOT read how to use it and autopilot it all the way and end up disappointed with the results. this is because it is designed to do that function and does it well. i have over the past 4 years seen just about every stop gap home grown method PS artists have developed for the reduction of noise but each is image specific and more time consumptive to get the same results that has been gotten with NI. but then thats just an opinion and you know how they are.

Edward_dee Jul 7, 2003 12:16 AM

Sjms,
Neat Image, like I said is OK for getting rid of noise in digital images.
No argument there since it is a *purpose designed* program to do
just so. But, I have to argue that if you know and use PShop
enuff and write your own Actions to solve your own graphic/image
problems, Pshop can't be beat because you CAN fix things yourself
for your own particular needs far better if you know what the
hell you are doing.

I agree that many don't read the "instructions". But this stuff is
way above most digi-cam users heads anyway for editing pics
and way off the original topic I posted.
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Do you suffer any DEAD PIXELS on your Hi7?

Do you take long exposures with your DHi7, and
how noisy are they compared to your Canon DSLR
for the same exposure rates? I'd appreciate any
comments since you have the higher end stuff, SJMS.

Thanks.
Ed.

sjms Jul 7, 2003 6:19 AM

actually i've been lucky that way no dead/hot ones at this time.

as to the comparative noise between a 1Ds and the 7Hi of course there is quite a difference. but then again the noise out of my wallet increased substantially as the image noise went down and resolving power went went up. that balance will take a long while to get back.

cald Jul 7, 2003 11:49 AM

Fireworks Shots
 
Experimented with fireworks shots this 4th. Got 1 or 2 out of lots of tries. I broke the first 'rule' by not using a tripod. Besides that, any hints on capturing aerial fireworks?


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