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Old Dec 13, 2004, 2:03 PM   #1
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Can any one advise what size image is captured by this camera as the minimum focusing distance appears rather far away at 10 or 12 inches (sorry I still work in old UK units).

My Fuji S602 captures 1.49 x 1.12 inches (38 x 28 mm) with a minimum focal distance of 0.4 inch.

The Nikon CP8800 captures a minimum area of 2.17 x 1.62 inches (55 x 41 mm) at 1.2 inches.

According to the Digital Imaging review the A2 captures a minimum area of only 1.94 x 1.46 inches (49 x 37 mm) which is good considering that it's focuses at 5.3 inches.

I would be particularly interested to know this information on the A200 as close up photography is of particular interest to me.
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Old Dec 18, 2004, 11:36 AM   #2
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KM measures the minimum focusing distance (25 cm / 10")from the CCD (like has always been done in the world of SLR's) instead of the front element/lens. The min. distance between the lens and the subject is about 13 cm / 5".

A very short focusing distance is actuallya con. It means you have to get very close to the subject, if you want to capture a small area. Bugs won't like it, the camera will cast a shadow on the subject, there will (usually) be severe barrel distortion/corner softnessand, finally, you can't use the built-in flash.

A200 has the same lens as the A2, A1 7i etc. Therefore, it'll be able to capture the same area, about 2 x 1.5 inches.

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Old Dec 18, 2004, 12:25 PM   #3
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KM measures the minimum focusing distance (25 cm / 10")from the CCD (like has always been done in the world of SLR's) instead of the front element/lens. The min. distance between the lens and the subject is about 13 cm / 5".

A very short focusing distance is actuallya con. It means you have to get very close to the subject, if you want to capture a small area. Bugs won't like it, the camera will cast a shadow on the subject, there will (usually) be severe barrel distortion/corner softnessand, finally, you can't use the built-in flash.

A200 has the same lens as the A2, A1 7i etc. Therefore, it'll be able to capture the same area, about 2 x 1.5 inches.

http://www.pbase.com/mbjorkro/image/5542086/large.jpg
Thanks for the information. I'd began to appreciate the shortfalls of Fuji S602 in focusing so close.

I've compiled a table for a number of different camera which I've extracted from Imaging Resource url: http://www.imaging-resource.com/

Macro Distances[/b]

Canon Pro1 capturing a minimum area of 0.97 x 1.29 inches (25 x 33 mm)
Nikon CP4800 capturing a minimum area of 1.01 x 0.76 inches (26 x 19 mm)
Olympus 8080 capturing a minimum area of 1.47 x 1.11 inches (37 x 28 mm)
Fuji FinePix S602 capturing a minimum area of 1.49 x 1.12 inches (38 x 28 mm)
Nikon CP8400 capturing a minimum area of 1.83 x 1.37 inches (46 x 35 mm)
Minolta A2 capturing a minimum area of 1.94 x 1.46 inches (49 x 37 mm)
Sony 828 capturing a minimum area of 2.11 x 1.58 inches (54 x 40 mm)
Nikon CP8800 capturing a minimum area of 2.17 x 1.62 inches (55 x 41 mm)
Canon S1capturing a minimum area of 2.17 x 1.63 inches (55 x 41 mm)
Canon A80 capturing a minimum area of 2.30 x 1.73 inches (59 x 44 mm)
Canon Rebel capturing a minimum area of 2.53 x 1.69 inches (64 x 43 mm)
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Canon Pro1 capturing a minimum area of 0.97 x 1.29 inches (25 x 33 mm)
Have you read the small print as well? Pro 1 records only 4 MP images in thesuper macro mode. This is probably done due to poor sharpness - yet the corners seem to be quite soft even in the cropped images.

According to Dpreview's review, the smallest area Pro 1 can capture in normal macro mode (full 8 MP resolution) is unimpressive 84 x 63 mm (3.31 x 2.47 inches).
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Have you read the small print as well? Pro 1 records only 4 MP images in thesuper macro mode. This is probably done due to poor sharpness - yet the corners seem to be quite soft even in the cropped images.

According to Dpreview's review, the smallest area Pro 1 can capture in normal macro mode (full 8 MP resolution) is unimpressive 84 x 63 mm (3.31 x 2.47 inches).
Useful information on the Canon Pro 1 - I hadn't realised that although when I 'test drove' it in the store I found the Super Macro fiddly to use & had at that stage deleted from my short list.
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To answer my own question, which is provided courtesy of Imaging Resource http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/KMA200/A2A.HTMin their recent review, the area captured is: 1.99 x 1.49 inches (50 x 38 mm) at 10 inches from the CCD.

My Fuji S602 captures 1.49 x 1.12 inches (38 x 28 mm) at 0.4 inch& the Nikon CP8800 captures 2.17 x 1.62 inches (55 x 41 mm) at 1.2 inches.

Whilst not as good as my Fuji, it's better than the CP8800 and at a further distance thus allowing flash to be used whilst not getting too close to frighten off small creatures etc.

Interestingly, I read Digital Camera Resources review at http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/mi...ew/index.shtml

For those who want to get super-close to their subjects, steer clear of this camera, as the closest focus distance is 13 cm.

If you want to get right up close to your subject, then the camera isn't that great, with focus distances of 21 cm at wide-angle and 13 cm at telephoto.By comarison, you can get as close to your subject as 3 cm at wide-angle on the Coopix 8800.

Whilst I found their review in keeping with my limited experience of the A200 the comments about the A200's macro mode are misleading by implying that the CP8800 is better because you can get closer to the subject.

Whereas in practice, the A200 is better on two counts:

1. The image size captured is smaller, therefore bigger

2. The camera is further away thus avoiding shadows over the image and possible use of flash.

I advised them of my findings and DCR have revised their comments thus:

However, if you don't mind shooting from further back, the A200 can capture roughly the same area as the Coolpix 8800.

The morale of this story is that you have to be careful in what you read & don't take everything for granted.

This comparison should dispel any criticism of the A200 against the CP8800
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