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Old Sep 13, 2004, 12:46 PM   #11
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Stunning insect shots, Chris.

Not trying to detract in any way from the Raynox, but I thought you'd be interested in what a simple +3 dioptre can do ....on these quick test shots.

The object size should be familiar to all M410R owners :-)

Note that there was no point in including the results of the camera set to macro at it's widest angle plus the +3 lens. Even without the +3, I was virtually able to focus with the battery touching the UV filter I had on. At widest angle, the results looked virtually the same with the +3 on, i.e. almost touching the +3 front surface.

Gotta try with something that moves faster now!

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Old Sep 14, 2004, 4:19 AM   #12
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hi kid, can you show me what A +3 is ? i will shoot a cm like you, then we can compare the result. i think you have a good dof on the last pic, can you tell me your settings ?
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Old Sep 14, 2004, 10:04 AM   #13
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Here it is ..... a whole £3 worth from a camera fair stall . It's a 55mm because I use it (occasionally) with Contax 35mm gear. I used a 52-55 stepup on the M410R.

Settings :roll:..... Hmm! EXT, Spot AF, ISO100, Centre metering, Aperture Priority, set to f8, originals were 2272F ... but resized for forum posting. Zoom as per captions, Macro mode, flash off.

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Old Sep 17, 2004, 8:29 AM   #14
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Not being one to go back on a promise .....Kyocera Kid went out and shot something that moves faster than my batteries drain :lol: ..... And smaller too!

This M410R loaner is NOT going back to KYUK - I WANT it! BADLY!.

I love my little SL300RT ..... always in one pocket or another ....... no more missed shots (?), but this M410R is a beaut

The £3 dioptre lens (+3) does show CA around whites and takes a bit of PS to correct ....... can't wait to try out a "corrected" supplementary lens.

Here's 70%(ish) resized shot.

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Old Sep 19, 2004, 7:15 AM   #15
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Hi again.

Having read elsewhere that the closer the supplementary lens is to the front element of the main lens, this got me wondering why the adapter that KY supply with the M410R is so long? It is probably 6 - 8mm longer than is needed.

As the base thread of the tube is 49mm, I will experiment with a couple of 49mm filters (minus glass) anda 49/52 or even a 49/55 step-up ring and see if there is any advantage.

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Old Sep 21, 2004, 9:42 AM   #16
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here is a shot at max tele + dcr 250
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Old Sep 22, 2004, 10:19 AM   #17
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Thanks Chris

And the clear winner is ........ the RAYNOX

Still think I got a bargain at £3 :-)

My experiment with the shorter adapter tube has produced

a) slightly less corner CA .....and ....

b) slightly less magnification?

For those that might like toknow ..... the "shorter tube" is a 49/55 step-up ring plus one blank55mm filter (i.e. no glass). It brings the supplementary lens to within a mm of the front of the inner lens surround. I'm now using this instead of the supplied adapter for all my filter/lenshood/cap combo needs.

My experiments might give someone food for thought!



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Old Sep 23, 2004, 8:38 AM   #18
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sure you got bargain :-)
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Old Oct 3, 2004, 3:25 PM   #19
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Chris

A few questions to satisfy my curiousity :-)

How have you mounted your DCR-250? Is it placed on the end of the Kyocera supplied filter adapter tube that came with the camera, using Raynox's universal snap on holder? Or some other way?

Is there any vignetting at the wide setting of the lens ..... and do you use the macro option of the camera when using the DCR-250?

Have you compared the 250 with any other macro device?

Thanks for your time....... Kyocera Kid.


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Old Oct 4, 2004, 7:47 AM   #20
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hi kid,

kyocera adapter tube + raynox universal snap

vignettage under x5

can't exactly remember because i always use the macro mode, but it is possible to don't use, i will test this....

no i just buy it
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