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Old Oct 28, 2003, 8:36 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if any of the firewire readers out there have "female" connectors? Reason I ask is that I have two machines with Firewire. One is 4 pin the other is 6 pin. I have a 4 pin to 4 pin cable and a 4 pin to 6 pin cable. I know there are all kinds of adapters out there, but they cost $20 or more. when you consider that the readers themselves cost less than $40. cables can get expensive.

Before you complain, Yes, I realize I'm a cheapskate!
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Old Oct 28, 2003, 10:25 PM   #2
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if you adapt a 4 pin to 6 pin you will probably find that you reader will not work. a 6 to 6 pin cable is generally required because 2 of the 6 pins deliver the required power to the reader. most laptops only have 4 pin plugs which is rather inadequate. here is where i hate to admit the apple laptops have it good. 6 to 6 plugs powered.

4 to 4 data xfr only from 2 self powered devices
4 to 6 same
6 to 6 in theory should have power but not always. pcmcia adapters with 6 pins usually require a AC adapter to supply power

firewire is good when it is implemented with some forthought.
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Old Oct 28, 2003, 11:11 PM   #3
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I was afraid of that...

Actually, it begs the question:
Would it be possible to "steal" the voltage from a USB port on a laptop to power a 4 pin Firewire? would make for an ugly two-headed cable at one end but....

One more question:

is a PC card adapter for CF going to be any faster than USB 1.1?
If so, they're pretty cheap and I'll just use that w/ the laptop and go Firewire on the deskside unit.


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Old Oct 29, 2003, 6:01 AM   #4
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yes they are and there is one faster then even firewire.

ref:

http://luminous-landscape.com/review...s/aska32.shtml

this is available in the US as a delkin product and can be purchased for about $50. i have it and it cand tranfer 226MB in about 33sec.

Ref:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0310/03...ardbustest.asp
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Even 1394b ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I got that Delkin too... The 1G lexar 32x cards in that PCMCIA adapter totally beats the butt of the microdrives (in writes)! ops:
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Old Oct 29, 2003, 7:59 AM   #6
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new wires (9 pin) new investment and again not enough products that actually make a difference to invest in. lets not forget the 1394c spec (FW1600) :shock: while we're at it. it was only when apple chopped the royaly fee in half that a few devices started to show up with FW400 and of course performance was lacking due to the product itself (printers, scanners and tethered camera ops). it did allow commitment to apple connectivity which caused a momentary rise in sales(more like a blip). when FW goes open spec (when steve jobs is in his grave) then it might actually take off.

the implementation of firewire as a whole concept never came to fruition. the concept of point to point FW interconnections has never gone anywhere to date.

also those new devices that do have FW capability carry a hefty SJ apple surchage for the port still.
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... unless you have a video camera, which is the only way for any serious video buffs to do any editing at this time!
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old story. yes, video. one item. thats a whole lot of break through in, what is it, 8+ years since FW came out. i want it on my convection oven :lol:
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... Here's a "new" story: Big Mac

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that would be a bit over my budget at this time but there are options.
Gigabyte has just intri'd a new athlon 64 MB including FW800 integrated

http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard..._GA-K8NNXP.htm

it also has the works built in on it too.

SATA is qiute a bit faster then ATA100/133 it is similar to scsi 160 in performance with the usual minor bottlenecks of ATA.
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