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rsperso Feb 6, 2004 6:18 PM

Advice welcome
I want to buy my first digital cam, but I really don't know which one is best for me.

My needs are : 4/5Million pixels, 4x optical zoom or more, and a not too big
camera. What I want to be able to do : take photos during concerts, without flash.
Sometimes I have accrediation and am pretty close to the stage, sometimes
I'm a bit far away from from it and need a small camera to pass the controls.

Could you please gimme some advice and help me chosing a good camera for
this particular kind of use?
Thanks in advance for your help !

jawz Feb 6, 2004 8:55 PM

Sure, check into this one:

slipe Feb 6, 2004 11:44 PM

Another consideration might be something like a Canon G5 with a f2 lens. Hard to get good shots from a distance without flash and the extra f stop would be a big help. Not real small but probably concealable if you are clever.

rsperso Feb 7, 2004 1:55 AM

I was thinking that 400 ISO is not enough. Am I wrong ?
I always use 1000 or 1600 in my classic camera...

Norm in Fujino Feb 7, 2004 2:59 AM

ISO 400, 1000, 1600 . . .

Ah, well, the same general principle holds as for a film camera, only more so: the higher the ISO number, the greater the graininess (in digitalese: pixelation, noise artifacts). Unfortunately we aren't at the point yet of having access to consumer level CCDs (=digital film) that combine high speed with low graininess. In practice what this means is that at least with most prosumer cameras, ISO 400 is the max you're likely to ever want to work with, because even if a camera has a higher speed, beyond 400 and pixelation begins to become so troublesome that you'll probably not want to use it.
Most people I've talked to and read admit they do most of their shooting at ISO 50-100 if they want to get printable images. --Needless to say, YMMV.

slipe Feb 7, 2004 9:01 AM

You can shoot at ISO 800 just fine with a DSLR, but with the small sensors in digicams ISO 800 is noisy enough that you lose picture information. There are a couple of inexpensive programs that will remove noise quite well, but ISO 800 can still end up without enough information to make a good shot.

With the extra f stop in the faster lens the G5 will take photos at ISO 400 in the same light that would require ISO 800 on the V1 or any other compact with a f 2.8 lens. You are better off either going with a DSLR and the Acme false pot belly kit to sneak it in with or the fastest lens you can find in a smallish prosumer.

rsperso Feb 9, 2004 2:32 AM

Thanks for all the info.

Looks like a good product for my need hasn't been released yet...

I'll wait for a few more weeks (looks like new cams are coming out these days), but I understand that the smaller the cam, the lower the performance.

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