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Old Jan 16, 2008, 10:33 AM   #11
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So far, this has been an academic discussion.

doto41, could you tell us which camera you have?
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 12:05 PM   #12
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true this bit of information might help, a panasonic fz8, a week old, and just started learning it
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 12:34 PM   #13
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Nice camera.

The specs for the Panasonic Lumix FZ8 state that the available resolutions are:

RECORDING IMAGE SIZE

4:3 Aspect Ratio (Still Image)
3072 x 2304
2560 x 1920
2048 x 1536
1600 x 1200
1280 x 960
640 x 480

3:2 Aspect Ratio (Still Image)
3072 x 2048
2048 x 1360

16:9 Aspect Ratio (Still Image)
3072 x 1728
1920 x 1080

So the maximum horizontal resolution is 3072 pixels, and the aspect ratio that gives the greatest vertical resolution is 4:3. Therefore I think that's the aspect ratio you should use. ... And do your own cropping.

Good luck with it, and come back and show us what you've been up to.
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Old Jan 22, 2008, 3:44 AM   #14
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I'm not the original poster but thanks the the information anyway, you have all been very informative.
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Old Jan 22, 2008, 5:01 AM   #15
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Today I shoot 4:3 and have my website with Smugmug. They have a set of prints specifically for the 4:3 format which require no cropping at all...
The only issue with shooting in 4:3 and getting prints made in that format is getting frames. You still mostly only see the common traditional sizes--8x10, 5x7 etc, though you are seeing more non-traditional sizes available. I almost always shoot with the cropping I have in mind, leaving some space all the way around. Hopefully this will continue to change as we move farther and farther away from traditional sizing.
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I do leave the room, just in case by habit.The biggest concern todayis trying to explain to people HOW to crop on the Smugmug system when they want to order prints. It's amazing the number of people who never think about how 8x10 and 5x7 are not the same ratio as the image as shot. The last two weddings I did, I printed the "no crop" 4x5.33 proofs, which fit in the TAPP 4x6 albums very well and fall between the 4x6's from 35mm film and 4x5 proofs you'd get from a roll of 645 medium formatfilm.

When it comes to framing, a "no crop" 8x10 from a 4:3 formatcomes out to 8x10.6, which you can fit completely inside an 8x10 frame and adjust how you want to "crop" it as you fit it in, so there's really no need to have the labcrop it at all.. Very convenient.
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I do leave the room, just in case by habit.The biggest concern todayis trying to explain to people HOW to crop on the Smugmug system when they want to order prints. It's amazing the number of people who never think about how 8x10 and 5x7 are not the same ratio as the image as shot. The last two weddings I did, I printed the "no crop" 4x5.33 proofs, which fit in the TAPP 4x6 albums very well and fall between the 4x6's from 35mm film and 4x5 proofs you'd get from a roll of 645 medium formatfilm.

When it comes to framing, a "no crop" 8x10 from a 4:3 formatcomes out to 8x10.6, which you can fit completely inside an 8x10 frame and adjust how you want to "crop" it as you fit it in, so there's really no need to have the labcrop it at all.. Very convenient.
I agree. I had several problems with people not understanding cropping when ordering. I've gotten into the habit of asking what size prints they are looking for and uploading them in the correct aspect ratio. I've also set the printing to be delayed, so I can check the order and re-upload the image in the correct aspect ratio. Your way sounds easier.
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