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Old Nov 24, 2003, 12:37 AM   #1
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Default sony dsc-v1 or pentax optio 555

Im looking at purchasing a new camera for all round use on vacations and and pictures of my two kids. I have read the reviews but they are over my head. ANy suggestions would be helpful.
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They are different concepts. The 555 is a great little camera with a 5X zoom. It has good manual features if you want to learn to use those. Its main advantage over the V1 is that you can put it in your pocket. It has some neat stuff like time lapse photography and can hold over 4 hours of audio on a 256Mb card.if used as a voice recorder.

The V1 is a more advanced camera. It has a hot shoe if you need a more powerful flash. It has 14 bit internal circuits, which is somewhat negated by lack of a raw mode. It has long exposure noise reduction. The laser holographic focus assist will focus quickly and accurately in low light. And the 640 X 480 movie mode will give much nicer sound movies than the standard 320 X 240 Ė albeit with some jerkiness because it is only 16 frames/sec. It in no way replaces a camcorder, but you might not want to carry both.

My preference would be for the 555, but Iím thinking in terms of having a large capable camera for when I want to go out and take pictures and a small camera to carry everywhere. If it were to be my only digital camera I would probably go for the V1.
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thanks for the reply. I was looking at a local camera shop and they nsuggested the minolta g500 or similar konica as an all around camera. Im not sure if I would use all the features on either camera.

I bought a oylmpus 3040 last year and really onlu used it as a point and shoot, but my wife thought it was too big so hence the new camera

Was looking at the pentax optio s (the one that fits in the altoids can) but saw the 5 mp and thought that would better

Do you know if the sony as the ability to store pictures at both the high resolution and email size? My sister in law has a sony that does that.
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 5:54 PM   #4
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thanks for the reply. I was looking at a local camera shop and they nsuggested the minolta g500 or similar konica as an all around camera. Im not sure if I would use all the features on either camera.
I can highly recommend the Konica Revio KD-510z (Minolta DiMAGE G500). It's a 5 Megapixel Pocketable Camera with a 39-117mm Equivalent Zoom Lens.

This model was released in Japan at the end of June as the Konica Revio KD-510z. I had one in my hands 2 weeks later (I specifically looked for a Japanese model, since I knew it would take a while before it hit the U.S.).

Konica-Minolta decided to release this camera under the Minolta logo as the DiMAGE G500 in the U.S. They are identical except for the logo and model number.

The Minolta DiMAGE G500 (a.k.a., Konica Revio KD-510z) is 94 x 56 x 30 mm (3.7 x 2.2 x 1.2 inches)

I carry mine with me everywhere in a pocket (usually in my pants pocket), but it will also fit fine in a shirt pocket, jacket pocket -- almost any pocket.

It's also great in low light.

See some comments on low light focus here from both myself, and forum poster Tom Crip, in a thread titled "Shocking, G500 outperforms the 7i"

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=6607017

It's got great metering, and the default photos look fantastic (without the need to mess with any of the settings). Here's a comment from someone that owned the F300, and needed a replacement camera. I suggested that he try the G500 instead.

"I did what you mentioned. I got the G500 for a couple of days, used it, and loved it. Compared to the F300, it's faster, the photos have a greater range of tones, it's sturdier and easier to use. I've even played with a few of the images with Photoshop Elements, and the enhanced version I create still is outmatched by the original.--which really surprised me. Thanks for the great information, and for leading me to the details on how to customize the menu options."

See the posts from user 1574kc in this thread at megapixel.net:

http://www.megapixel.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8536

BTW, I've had this camera since mid-July, and I've taken well over 100 photos (mostly with flash) on many occassions, and I've only "run out of juice" once with it (at a weekend long party, where I had taken close to 200 photos (with flash, mostly at night outside).

You can find Generic 850mAh Lithium Ion Batteries on Ebay for around $10.00 each, too (any battery for the Konica KD-310z, KD-400z, KD-410z, KD-500z, or KD-510z will work).

I love the photo quality. Also, see this thread, where I quoted forum poster Nyugen (who owns both the Canon S400, and the Konica KD-510z, which is identical to the Minolta DiMAGE G500, except for the logo). I also included links to his posts about the differences:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=5851793

Also, see this post from forum poster Adam (who has owned the Canon S400, Konica KD-400z, KD-500z, and new Minolta G500 (Konica KD-510z):

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=6277866

It's also responsive. You can set continuous mode under the custom menu (and leave it turned on at all times -- I've never accidently taken more than one photo this way). With this setting, the camera will take one photo every 1.27 seconds until the memory cards are full, simply by holding down the shutter button. No buffers to fill up, no switching to a special burst mode, etc.

With flash indoors, I've clocked it at one photo every 2.1 seconds, simply by holding down the shutter button, INCLUDING FLASH RECYCLE TIME at closer ranges of 3 to 4 feet. This model "throttles" down the flash nicely at closer ranges (which also speeds up recycle times). I love it (but it drives my wife nuts, when I press and hold the shutter button, snapping off multiple flash photos from across the table at restaurants).

It's really a great flash design -- throttling down the flash nicely to prevent overexposure at arms length, with enough strength to get well exposed photos at 14-16 feet away at ISO 200 at full wide angle (MUCH better than most subcompact models). Note: at further distances, the flash can take as long as 4 or 5 seconds to recharge, but this is the exception, not the norm. At closer ranges, recharge time is MUCH faster.

It's also an Extremely well made camera -- there is nothing "flimsy" about it. Check one out at your local dealer.

I think it's got the best balance of physical size, user control of parameters used most often, flash range, speed of operation, and image quality out of any subcompact model -- with photos that can match or exceed much larger cameras.

You may also want to visit my Pbase.com Konica Album. You'll see posts from some users of this model, commenting on it in the forum (underneath the photos on the main album page). You'll also find links to my user review.

http://www.pbase.com/jcockfield/konica_kd510z
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The V1 stores 320 X 240 pixel e-mail shots along with the regular JPGs. You would probably be happier with a Sony P10 or P92 though. They are more compact and probably have all of the features you would want. They also take the larger format movies and add the e-mail sized photos. They donít have the holographic low light focus but do have focus assist lights. Sony manages to get the flash a little further from the lens so red eye wonít be as bad as some other compact cameras.

If you want small you canít get a smaller competent camera than the Pentax S4. It takes nice pictures and is very easy to carry around. You wonít see any difference up through 8 X 10 prints between 4 and 5Mp, and even larger prints will look quite nice with 4Mp. I think 5Mp is preferable but if you take shots with the little S4 you would miss with another camera because it was at home a 4Mp camera you have with you is better than the greatest camera in the world that has been left behind.

I agree the G500 is a nice compromise if you donít think you want the good quality movie mode. Movies are nice sometimes with kids and you donít always have the camcorder along. I donít think it does the e-mail images, but I prefer to size the things anyway. The S4 doesnít have the big movies or e-mail jpg files either.
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Old Nov 25, 2003, 2:59 PM   #6
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You may want to try out the cameras you are considering in a store. I personally don't like the ergonomics of the smaller Sonys. I bought (and returned) a Sony DSC-P10 earlier this year.

When trying to hold it with one hand, my photos always came out tilted. When trying to hold it with two hands, it felt very awkward. Because the lens is located on one side of the camera, I never "mastered" holding it with both hands (trying to keep my fingers from blocking the lens).

Given enough time, perhaps I would have gotten used to it. But, I was not happy with the Sony P10 metering, colors, indoor flash recycle times, etc. So, I returned it for a refund.

While it's true that the smaller Sonys do offer better movie modes than most, I'd place more emphasis on other aspects when choosing a new camera.

In the Sony models, I think the larger V1 would be a much better choice.

As far as e-mailing images, many image editing packages let you do this from the full size images (automatically downsizing the images you are viewing for e-mail purposes). Even the free irfanview has this ability. You can download it for free from http://www.irfanview.com (make sure to download the free plug-ins too).

Also, you can use a photo sharing web site to allow users to easily view your images. This is much easier than trying to e-mail the photos, since you can simply send them a link to your photos instead.

There are many photo sharing web sites that even give you unlimited free storage. I use http://www.Pbase.com for some albums (since users can view images at any desired viewing size -- even downloading the original size images for printing if desired). It's not free, but it's very inexpensive.

I also use http://www.photoaccess.com (which is free). It allows users to view your images, and order prints if desired. So, all you need to do is send a link to an album, versus e-mailing downsized images).
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