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airplanenut · Nov 11, 2009, 11:04 AM

Howdy,

I typically shoot with my D90 in Raw + JPG Fine, and I've found the two outputs to have considerable differences in colors. The JPG output looks pretty much spot-on, but the RAW photo requires a lot of adjustments for the color output to match the subject. I'm using a preset white balance, which I would have assumed would meter color the same what in both formats.

Here's an example I recently shot. The photos shown here are both just cropped/resized from the original, and the link goes to the full-size original version.

http://jkcp.jkwd.com/jkcp/20091110-raw/DSC_1365.NEF

http://jkcp.jkwd.com/jkcp/20091110-raw/DSC_1365.JPG

I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this.

Thanks,

Jeremy

kazuya · Nov 11, 2009, 11:34 AM

Its because the jpg gets processed in the camera, where the RAW is untouched.
RAW allways needs you to process them yourself to look decent

airplanenut · Nov 11, 2009, 12:00 PM

Is there any way to figure out what the camera did for color settings? It seems to be nailing the JPGs when it comes to color, and it would save a lot of time to know what it did.

TCav · Nov 11, 2009, 12:30 PM

Perhaps the white balance?

airplanenut · Nov 11, 2009, 1:13 PM

The white balance should already be fine--I'm using a preset value, and the JPG color has no problem.

Hards80 · Nov 11, 2009, 1:17 PM

I believe that Nikon's Capture NX allows you to apply the camera settings to your raw workflow.

TCav · Nov 11, 2009, 2:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airplanenut

The white balance should already be fine--I'm using a preset value, and the JPG color has no problem.

But the white balance setting is applied to the JPEG image, not the RAW file. It would only be applied to teh RAW image during post processing, if you chose it to be.

airplanenut · Nov 11, 2009, 3:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCav

But the white balance setting is applied to the JPEG image, not the RAW file. It would only be applied to teh RAW image during post processing, if you chose it to be.

That would certainly explain a lot... is there a way to find out what the temperature is for the preset white balance I've captured? Then at least I'd know where to put the slider when I start processing.

TCav · Nov 11, 2009, 3:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airplanenut

That would certainly explain a lot... is there a way to find out what the temperature is for the preset white balance I've captured? Then at least I'd know where to put the slider when I start processing.

What application are you using?

As Hards80 said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hards80

I believe that Nikon's Capture NX allows you to apply the camera settings to your raw workflow.

jphess · Nov 11, 2009, 3:27 PM

Unless you are using software provided from Nikon, most of those in-camera settings that are applied to your JPEG images are hidden from the software you are using to process your raw images. It is up to you to customize that software and, if possible, establish your own default settings. This is a common question that is asked frequently in the Adobe forums.

Nov 11, 2009, 11:04 AM	#1
airplanenut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 137	D90--Odd Color Output for Raw Photos Howdy, I typically shoot with my D90 in Raw + JPG Fine, and I've found the two outputs to have considerable differences in colors. The JPG output looks pretty much spot-on, but the RAW photo requires a lot of adjustments for the color output to match the subject. I'm using a preset white balance, which I would have assumed would meter color the same what in both formats. Here's an example I recently shot. The photos shown here are both just cropped/resized from the original, and the link goes to the full-size original version. http://jkcp.jkwd.com/jkcp/20091110-raw/DSC_1365.NEF http://jkcp.jkwd.com/jkcp/20091110-raw/DSC_1365.JPG I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this. Thanks, Jeremy

Nov 11, 2009, 12:30 PM	#4
TCav Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Washington, DC, Metro Area, Maryland Posts: 13,742	Perhaps the white balance? __________________ The lens is the thing. 'Full Frame' is the new 'Medium Format'. "One good test is worth a thousand expert opinions." - Tex Johnston, Boeing 707 test pilot.

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:34 AM	#2
kazuya Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,007	Its because the jpg gets processed in the camera, where the RAW is untouched. RAW allways needs you to process them yourself to look decent

Nov 11, 2009, 12:00 PM	#3
airplanenut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 137	Is there any way to figure out what the camera did for color settings? It seems to be nailing the JPGs when it comes to color, and it would save a lot of time to know what it did.

Nov 11, 2009, 1:13 PM	#5
airplanenut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 137	The white balance should already be fine--I'm using a preset value, and the JPG color has no problem.

Nov 11, 2009, 1:17 PM	#6
Hards80 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 9,046	I believe that Nikon's Capture NX allows you to apply the camera settings to your raw workflow.

Nov 11, 2009, 3:27 PM	#10
jphess Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,063	Unless you are using software provided from Nikon, most of those in-camera settings that are applied to your JPEG images are hidden from the software you are using to process your raw images. It is up to you to customize that software and, if possible, establish your own default settings. This is a common question that is asked frequently in the Adobe forums.