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Old Mar 4, 2007, 2:38 PM   #11
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Jess RussellWrote::::" I wish Iknew better how to use the nx.."


My opinion is that Nikon made NX wayto complicated and way to much stuff on the monitor to be worth a crap. I'm staying with Nikoncapture-4 and Photoshop CS2 for My processing programs.

I once had ACDsee but it got complicated and stupid like Nikon did when they created NX. ACDsee was worse though because it liked to completely take over your computer.


My guess is that the people creating some of these programs don't really use them at all or they would not put so much un-used & un-neededstuff on them. They also forget you really need to see the photograph your working on. Better instructions would be a nice touch but We all know that will never happen.

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Old Mar 4, 2007, 3:20 PM   #12
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ronnie, I think you expressed it well..problem is.. I find most of phtoshop the same way...just not as smart as I should be.. oh well, I just stumble along.
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Hi Jess,

At least with Photoshop CS2 you can move the tools around and can turn them small to allow a full view of your picture. With NX they only leave a small window surrounded by the tool palates etc. that can't be moved or made smaller. That is what I found in the trial version. Maybe they fixed it in the version they sell. I don't know. CS2 is great if you take the time to learn the fundamentals.

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Old Mar 4, 2007, 7:25 PM   #14
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Photoshop Elements 5.0 is a more affordable subset of the Photoshop application. Look for books by Scott Kelby for easy to understand cookbook style education.
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Old Mar 5, 2007, 8:35 AM   #15
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Hi Bob,

You are right about Scott Kellby's books being very good and easy to read. I got the "Photoshop CS2 book for Digital photographers" and it is really great. I have never used Elements 5.0 so I can't compare it to CS2. I did try the trial version of NX and I think it was awful compared to their capture 4 software.

I guess I'm just a slave to Photoshop and DXO along with Capture 4 when I need to resize a bunch of photo's the easy way.

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Old Mar 9, 2007, 12:11 PM   #16
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Too Red means not enough Cyan! I usually find working Adobe RGB is best on my D100.
Try this---
USE Adobe CS2 RAW to adjust white balance as close as possible. It often pays to reduce exposure / brightness somewhat. Use dropper to tool to check Red around 200 / 210 max, green about 30-40 less than red and Blue about 20 less than green.
Send to CS2 as a 16 bit file.
In CS2 put dropper (5*5) onto skin ~(I go for just above eyebrows) and convert dropper info to CMYK. (NOT the file)
Skin tones vary but European are usually around C=12 M=30 Y=30. M always less than 3*C, Y around same as M.
Adjust using curves at the lighter end to personal taste! Helps if your monitor is properly calibrated too. To get Cyan back in I pull the Red curve down at the top.

Failing that have a look at Pictocolor software. They have excellent correcting software, including for skin tones.

Here's another possibility: http://www.lonestardigital.com/skin_tones.htm

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Howard, thanks, you are the first one to give me any help at all.. I am rusing to my picture to see if I can make it work..
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Here's one I did to show you...
Left adjusted to C=8, M=25, Y=25 (slightly paler to reflect baby skin)
Original C=0, M=31,Y=29 (from a NEF: D80 with Nikon 18-200 VR)
You can see from the histogram how red the original was!


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I hope it's ok with Steve &Company to post this link to another site. See Exposure about 1/3 of the way down the page. Your question will be answered.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d80...e.htm#exposure

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Not had any exposure problems with the D80 myself, nor has my pal who bought one of the first ones. But I do think -1/3 exp compensation is always a good idea.

But I agree with Ken - stick it on Auto ISO and forget it.
Like any camera the D80 doesn't like expanses of bright skies with dark foreground.
But then neither does my G7, D100 or CP995. Nor does my daughter's 350D!

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