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Old Nov 16, 2012, 8:56 PM   #1
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Hi guys.
I'll be in the market for a new camera in the new year. My brand of camera, to whom I've been faithful to since 1970 has become stagnent and has fallen behind on their product and left me more than a little disenchanted.
Anyway I was trailing along, pushing the cart for my wife (you've been there ) in Costco yesterday and saw this:-
http://www.costco.com/Nikon-D600-Ful...100012382.html
....and lost my wife for 1/2 hour while I fondled it.
It has all the right numbers and enough stuff there to get me going into a new format.
Curious though to hear what you Nikon guys think of this the D600 and the lenses and stuff that comes along in the bag.

Love to hear from you.

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Good Morning Ken,

I never realized that your history with Olympus goes that far back. Wow.

The deal offered by Costco, in my mind, is a good one covering that focal range for general photography. I've not seen a better deal - as yet. The 24-85 is considered a budget lens. BUT, it is a well reviewed lens that is very sharp pretty much throughout it's focal range. While the 70-300mm is also very good from a price to performance perspective. Much like the ZD 70-300mm Oly lens.
It is when you get into specialty situations i.e. birding, sports/action, and wide angle photography where you might consider adding other lenses.

One thing is sure, you will be amazed at the difference in auto focus and low light performance from what you're currently using.


You may wish to read a few articles at ThomHogan.com regarding the D600 as well as his reviews on lenses. It is worth the time.

Good luck and good hearing from you.

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B+H carries the same package with a different lens if you prefer not to change lenses: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...LR_Camera.html

Up to you really as Costco is pretty liberal in return policy
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Old Nov 17, 2012, 11:52 AM   #4
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Thanks guys, I was hoping that you'd be along Zig, you know exactly what I'm talking about reguarding the oly. Yeh, in 1970 I picked up a nice little "point and shoot" type film camera? then went on to the OM1. (That my daughter is hanging onto for a souvenir) then the OM10 and OM2 my fav. I still have that. I'm disappointed with Oly and the way they've let their users down so it's time and I have the oportunity to make the change at the end of the year.
Thanks for the heads up on the lenses, I hung on long enough with second tier lenses with the Oly so I'll look into more quality.

Which brings me to NHL and your mention of the B&H deal. I will definitely look into it and any other ideas you guys have. I'd rather get something I'm happy with rather than do the exchange thing.

What designations represent the 'quality' of lens for Nikon?
Costco=70-300 mm VR Lens
B&H= 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6G AF-S VR Lens Some reports are less than good with this, soft is a word that's tossed around.
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Hi Ken,

Unlike Olympus which assigns its higher end lenses the SWD designation, Nikon's designations have more to do with their purpose and features.
i.e:

FX designates the lens is designed for full frame cameras (D600)
DX designates the lens is made for cropped sensor dslrs such as the D7000.

The suffix VR means Vibration Reduction or image stabilization.
VRII is the latest version of Vibration Reduction.
AF-S designates a better auto focus system.

The beauty of the Nikon system, especially full frame is that you can pretty much use all of the lenses that were made for 35mm film cameras.

As I mentioned before, my suggestion is that you take the time to look at Thom Hogan's website as he has a great deal of information already posted
on all things having to do with Nikon cameras and lenses. I would compare him to Wrotniak and his Olympus website.

As for the 28-300mm lens, anytime you have a lens with that wide a range of focal length, there will be some compromise in image qaulity and sharpness.
Wether or not this is a problem, can only be determined by you and your
requirements. The Costco offering would give you a system which, I think, would give you better i.q.

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What designations represent the 'quality' of lens for Nikon?
This is an easy one - the quality is designated by the numbers that come after the $.

Just kidding - there are some great lenses that have less than 4 digits. What were your favorite lenses on your Olympus cameras?

Loving my D600!

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What designations represent the 'quality' of lens for Nikon?
Nikon doesn't use any designation in the model number depicting "Professional Grade"
if that's what you mean... They do however place a gold ring/band near the front element
of some (usually higher priced) lenses that many consider indicate a "Pro" grade lens...

Realistically, IMHO, the best way to determine the quality of any lens, be it Nikon or
third party manufacture, is to do the research... Compare what others think about a
lens and what professional/reputable reviewers have to say as well...

Here's a couple of my favorite reputable review sites:

LensTip.com (my fave)
http://www.lenstip.com/lenses_reviews.html

Photozone.de
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews

Hope that helps somehow...
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zig-123 is correct the Costco package has better IQ. The link above is for APS-C, so for the D600 you should use this one for lens comparison: http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff

IMO the Costco package also comes with a wireless mobile adapter: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...e_Adapter.html
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The link above is for APS-C, so for the D600 you should use this one for lens comparison: http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff
Oop's, you are correct (I'm used to reading reviews for an APS-C sensor... )

I edited that post to link to the main review page instead and people can pick for themselves...
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Well Ken,

Your post has caused me to again revisit the whole idea of converting to full frame. Just to let you know, I've just finished posting my D7000 and DX lenses on Craigslist with the intent of upgrading to the D600.

We'll see where this takes me.....
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