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Old Mar 4, 2013, 9:11 AM   #1
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I'm not really into making movies but seeing as how my D5100 comes with this feature I thought I would try it out.
Well the quality of the image is good but when I was panning indoors and outdoors the movie play back on my PC is quite jerky not smooth at all .It's quite smooth on play back on the camera .

Is this normal ? or am I doing something wrong ??
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 10:19 AM   #2
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I haven't shot many movies in the last decade or so, so my understanding of these things is not exactly current. One of the things that seems to have changed a lot is the image formats. You may well be shooting at, say, 60 frames per second non-interlaced, and the video on your PC may be playing the video at 20 fps or so. I would suggest you determine what frame rate and interlacing is being used during acquisition and make sure that the same is being used during playback. FWIW
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That sounds like it I guess.
I have since played it back on Windows Media Player, it was better but far from great.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 11:30 AM   #4
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I have been into the camera's menu and all it has for movie quality is 1080 25 fps High Quality.
1080 25 fps Normal. Then it goes 1080 24 Fps High and Normal. Next is 720 25 fps High and Normal Quality.Then 720 24 fps High and Normal.Then 424 25 fps High and Normal, and 424 24 fps High and Normal.
I was shooting on the first setting, 1080 25 fps High Quality. and shot it again at 1080 24 fps High Quality the result was roughly the same.
For some reason my D 5000 was ok but I only did a couple of Videos with it as it had to be focused manually.The auto focus on the D 5100 movie mode is much better..
So I'm still no further forward.
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Old Mar 4, 2013, 12:47 PM   #5
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Right here's where I'm at.
I've video'd in 1080 720 and 424.
They all look pretty good on the TV via HDMI lead.They play back great on the camera.
On my PC via SDHC card 424 looks the best and 1080 the worst.
If anyone can tell me what to do now I would appreciate it.
I dont want to have to leave the Videos on my camera but I like the 1080 on my TV.
Do I need to burn them onto DVD or will a memory stick work.
The problem I have is I grew up with gas lighting and a Crystal set radio.
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I would still suspect the frame rate. What is the refresh rate of your PC monitor? If it isn't an even multiple of 25, you may be finding problems due to the decimation routine of the PC program. Given that things aare fine on an actual TV with the appropriate frame rate, this seems like the biggest potential glitch to me.
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It is call shutter judder and to a certain extent can be minimized shooting with the shutter at 1/50th sec. (When I use aperture priority, that is kind of hard). Using aperture priority has the benefit of not having it jump all over a light source changes, or worse on a non moving controlled scene (like an interview) aperture needlessly adjusting. It is a combination of several factors for the judder from the physical sweep of the shutter and the panning motion. Basically, if you pan too fast for 24F, portions are missing, thus the judder. Sometines scenes don't support it, but tracking action and blurring background with narrow depth of field can minimize it.

Incidently, it is not limited to the D5100 (or Nikon) but is a characteristic trait of DSLR and mirrorless video. The trick is to be aware of those situation and be able to adjust.
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im thinking its the speed at which your PC is reading the data from the SDHC card, copy the movie onto your hard drive and then try watching it
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tclune

My PC is 7 yrs old so could be the refresh rate is not adequate.Also the D5100 is HD and my old D5000 wasn't. The D5000 played fine on the PC. I must admit it seems like the PC is playing catch up.

tizeye

I'll try those settings and see if it makes a difference. I was using P. The D5000 played well on PC and TV ,so I'm inclined to think HD may be it as my PC is not HD ??

kazuya

I have put them into My Pictures which hasn't made any difference.
I have also burnt them onto DVD but my DVD player wont play them.

Thanks for all the help everyone.
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ok well in computing terms a 7 years is ancient and it is going to struggle playing HD movies, you may have to bite the bullet and buy a new one
also im not sure how you made the dvd but if you just burnt the files as they are in .mov format thats probly why it wont play them.
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