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Old Nov 26, 2002, 4:04 PM   #1
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Default Non-Electronic Nikon lenses on D1H or D100?

Can any of these Nikon digital cameras be operated with an older non autofocus, non cpu (no electronic connection between the body and lens system)? I would like to use a digital camera on my Topcon 50FT retinal camera but it is manual everything (background illumination and flash intensity can be varied but the aperature is fixed and the shutter speed is fixed by the special purpose 35mm film backs that come with the system). I have seen a similar setup with a Kodak DCS 720x so I know it is possible with that particular Nikon F5 body based digital camera but I would like to have the option of using a Nikon D1H, D1X, or possibly a D100.
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Old Nov 27, 2002, 2:36 PM   #2
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I would say No. They must be at least AI or converted to AI.

From what I have gathered, the D100 & D1 series will take the following Nikkor lenses, but with the noted limitations:

AF-D and AF-G lenses (with or without IF)
- All functions available, not limitations

AF-I, AF-S lenses- (with internal focus motor)
- All functions available, no limitations

AF lenses
- All functions available, No 3D matrix, only 2D metering (Spot & Center only ???)

AI, AI'd, AIS, and Series E Manual Focus Lenses
- NO Matrix metering, Spot & Center metering OK, Aperture Priority OK, NO Shutter Priority

Non AI and other Manual Focus lenses (most made earlier than 1977)
- NO, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOUNT - IT WILL DAMAGE YOUR D100's METERING TAB!
- They can be converted to AI see http://aiconversions.com

Nikkor IX (APS)
- NO, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOUNT. IT WILL DAMAGE YOUR D100's METERING TAB!
- These can NOT be converted.

I hope this helps

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Old Dec 1, 2002, 12:00 PM   #3
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The D1h will accept non-AF, non-CPU lenses assuming that the lens is Aperture-Indexing (AI or AIS). You lose Matrix metering along with Shutter Priority and Program modes, and with AI lenses you lose Aperture Priority (AIS lenses allow aperture priority), but you can meter with center or spot and can always set exposure manually. The D100 will not meter at all without a CPU connection.
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Old Dec 2, 2002, 3:11 PM   #4
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Ron,

Then the correction would be for D100 only ...

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AI, AI'd, AIS, and Series E Manual Focus Lenses
- NO METERING, Manual use only
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Am I correct?
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Old Dec 4, 2002, 2:23 AM   #5
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Correct. The D100 is missing the linkage, and without a CPU you have to meter externally. You can have a CPU mounted in many AI/AIS lenses -- check with Rolland Elliot here:

http://home.carolina.rr.com/headshots/Nikonhome.htm
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Old Dec 4, 2002, 7:25 AM   #6
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So the list should read...

Lenses compatible with D100, D1, D1H, D1X

AF-D and AF-G lenses (with or without IF)
- All functions available, not limitations

AF-I, AF-S lenses- (with internal focus motor)
- All functions available, no limitations

AF lenses
- All functions available, No 3D matrix, Spot & Center metering only

AI, AI'd, AIS (Non AF, Non CPU), and Series E Manual Focus Lenses on D100
- NO METERING, Manual use only
- These can be converted (add CPU) to allow metering, see below.

AI, AI'd, AIS (Non AF, Non CPU), and Series E Manual Focus Lenses on D1, D1H, D1X
- NO Matrix metering, Spot & Center metering OK, NO Shutter Priority, NO Program Mode, AIS: Aperture Priority OK, AI: NO Aperture Priority,

Non AI & AIS and other Manual Focus lenses (most made earlier than 1977)
- NO, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOUNT. IT WILL DAMAGE YOUR METERING TAB!
- These can be converted to AI and CPU, see below.

Nikkor IX (APS)
- NO, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOUNT. IT WILL DAMAGE YOUR METERING TAB!
- These can NOT be converted.

To Convert Non AI & AIS and other Non-CPU Manual Focus Lenses see:
- John White at http://aiconversions.com
- Rolland Elliot at http://home.carolina.rr.com/headshots/Nikonhome.htm
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Old Dec 4, 2002, 9:27 AM   #7
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WTF? :?: :!:

Ok.. for the newbies like me who know nothing about what all these abreviations mean, where can I go to get an explanation? Like, what is AI'd, AI, AIS. etc.

Ok, I read AI is aperature indexing.. but what exactly does that mean?

Not asking for a long disertation in this forum, but I presume that what I am looking for is online somewhere.. just point me to it

Thanks for your patience with me.. just learning!
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Old Dec 4, 2002, 10:45 AM   #8
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So the list should read...

Lenses compatible with D100, D1, D1H, D1X

AF-D and AF-G lenses (with or without IF)
- All functions available, not limitations

AF-I, AF-S lenses- (with internal focus motor)
- All functions available, no limitations

AF lenses
- All functions available, No 3D matrix, Spot & Center metering only

AI, AI'd, AIS (Non AF, Non CPU), and Series E Manual Focus Lenses on D100
- NO METERING, Manual use only
- These can be converted (add CPU) to allow metering, see below.

AI, AI'd, AIS (Non AF, Non CPU), and Series E Manual Focus Lenses on D1, D1H, D1X
- NO Matrix metering, Spot & Center metering OK, NO Shutter Priority, NO Program Mode, AIS: Aperture Priority OK, AI: NO Aperture Priority,

Non AI & AIS and other Manual Focus lenses (most made earlier than 1977)
- NO, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOUNT. IT WILL DAMAGE YOUR METERING TAB!
- These can be converted to AI and CPU, see below.

Nikkor IX (APS)
- NO, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MOUNT. IT WILL DAMAGE YOUR METERING TAB!
- These can NOT be converted.

To Convert Non AI & AIS and other Non-CPU Manual Focus Lenses see:
- John White at http://aiconversions.com
- Rolland Elliot at http://home.carolina.rr.com/headshots/Nikonhome.htm
Who has had any of these pre 77 lenses modified succesfully and are using them on their D100?
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here it goes:

AF = Auto Focus
AF-D = has CPU and aperture ring
AF-G = has CPU and no aperture ring
AF-I = has Internal Focusing Motor built in
AF-S = has Silent Wave Focusing Motor built in
AF-IF = Body Driven Internal Focus, Non rotating outer lens

MF = Manual Focus (Non AF)
AI = Auto Indexing - has a mechanical connection to the aperture
AIS = Auto Indexing (newer version)
AI'd = Converted to Auto Indexing
Non AI = Non Auto Indexing

Any additions or correction would be appreciated.
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Old Sep 26, 2003, 11:25 PM   #10
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Ths link might help...

http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-bin...ted=1029163096
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