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guillermovilas Feb 5, 2008 2:06 AM

Well there are no posts dedicated to TOKINA or TAMRON lenses , strange because
lots of people would like to know how they compare to the big makes :?:G:?.

I`m dedicating a part of my personal webalbum site to showing a few pictures taken with different lenses.

Here you will find pictures taken with a Sigma 30mm f/1.4 & a Tokina 100mm f/2.8 macro , these 2 lenses are not that popular , most people favor Nikon 35mm f/2 or 50mm f/1.4 over the Sigma and the Tamron 90mm f/2.8 macro , Sigma 100mm f/2.8 macro , Nikon 60mm f/2.8 macro , Nikon 105mm f/2.8 VR macro over the Tokina.

So have a look at how these perform and do come back later because i`ll be posting some more pictures taken with other lenses like the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 & Tamron f/2.8 macro and many more in the futur :cool:

chris89 Feb 5, 2008 4:22 PM

Tamron, for some reason, has always been better than i expected :) i had the cheapo 70-300 and it was just warm and had a nice look to it (not that sharp or contrasty, but still darn pleasant and great color).
Can't say that about the sigmas i used, they all sucked.

NHL Feb 5, 2008 4:37 PM

guillermovilas had an excellent idea :cool:
... and I can't help but do the same for theses two Sigmas:

-> I'll follow with my Tokina 16-50 f/2.8 shortly... ;)

rjseeney Feb 5, 2008 7:22 PM

I've used some cheapo tamrons with some success. I just wasn't thrilled with build quality. I also owned a tamron 200-400 and although I liked it, it was just too big and I didn't use it all that much.

I just got the sigma 10-20 and the build quality is very good, and although I've only taken a few shots with it, I really think I'm going to like it. I had a few sigmas with my old Minolta film setup too.

NHL Feb 5, 2008 8:05 PM

People tend to lump all 3rd party lenses into one mixed bag, but actually like Nikon (or Canon), the 3rd party lenses are also divided into two low/high-end groups with various quality levels:

o The consumer grade lenses
-> Usually plastic build and more affordable which tend to have questionable quality as they compete on prices for the mass market

o The pro-level grade lenses
-> Most if not all the lenses in this group tend to be made out of metal and are of higher quality than consumer grade polycarbonate's Nikon. The lenses in this group are the Tamron SP (High-Performance Specification), the Tokina ATX-Pro, and the Sigma EX which also come in HSM (AF-s equivalent):

fewpics Feb 7, 2008 3:32 AM

The only Sigma lens I have is a 70-200mm HSM f2.8 that I bought about 8 or9 months ago. It gives fantastic pictures and even when I put a 1.4 teleconverter on it (does that make 2 Sigma lenses?), it didn't seem to lose any quality... The only reason I don't use this lens too much is because of my blood pressure shakes, which spoil those long shots. I do use it from a tripod though. Apart from that I use VR lenses. Helps meimmensely... Once Sigma reveal theirimage stablisingtechnology, I'll be in like a robbers dog...

joeybob Feb 27, 2008 8:59 PM

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I own 2 Sigma lenses. An old 24mm f/2.8 prime and the AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM.

I purchased the 24mm 2nd hand and I suspect it needs a little service as it only opens to a max aperature of 3.0 not 2.8. It's not exactly the sharpest lens but it does okay. When it focus' it is loud. I read somewhere that this was a common complaint about that lens.

The 10-20 is really nice and it's really W-I-D-E. I recently got this lens and have not had much time to experiment with it. I've read complaints about this lens' sharpness and from what I've noticed I wonder if that could be related to the relatively limited aperature that this lens has. I can't say that the lens is exceptionally sharp but instead it requires a good deal of light to pull off an image with a good contrast. My intent is to use this lens for landscapes and architecture and I've noted that a dimly lit room is not the best setting for using this lens. Here is one shot I took the day I received this lens:

Nagasaki Feb 28, 2008 5:02 AM

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I own several third party lenses and have found the quality to be great. There are cheap rubbish lenses made by all manufacturers including Nikon.

I have had a Sigma 50mm Macro for several years, originally used it with film. I'm still happy with the results I'm getting with digital.

This shot was taken a couple of weeks ago on a D80.

Nagasaki Feb 28, 2008 5:06 AM

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The Tokina 10-17 fisheye lens is a brilliant lens. I think the quality rivals the Nikon 10.5 fisheye with the flexibility of a zoom that gives a field of view between 180 and 100 degrees.

This shot taken at 14mm with a D70 last October.

Nagasaki Feb 28, 2008 5:10 AM

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My most recent third party lens is a Tamron 90mm macro. I considered the Nikon 105 but reviews said this was as good if not better in some circumstances and Ipreferred the slightly shorter focal length.

Shot on a D80 early this month.

guillermovilas Feb 28, 2008 5:14 AM

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Just bought a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 and i`m amazed of it`s sharpness even though it has the reputation of being too soft under f/4 , well this pic is taken at f/3.2 and i`ve never seen a sharper picture :cool:

joeybob Feb 28, 2008 7:31 PM

I'm anxious to see reviews + shots of Tokina's new 11-16 f/2.8 atx pro. I hesitated on the purchase of my Sigma 10-20 hoping that lens would have been out by now.

BTW guillermovilas that is a sharp shot !

guillermovilas Feb 28, 2008 10:05 PM

joeybob wrote:

I'm anxious to see reviews + shots of Tokina's new 11-16 f/2.8 atx pro. I hesitated on the purchase of my Sigma 10-20 hoping that lens would have been out by now.

BTW guillermovilas that is a sharp shot !
I`m thinking more of the Tamron 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 which has a more interesting reach , a good walkaround lens :-)

joeybob Feb 28, 2008 11:20 PM

guillermovilas wrote:

joeybob wrote:

I'm anxious to see reviews + shots of Tokina's new 11-16 f/2.8 atx pro. I hesitated on the purchase of my Sigma 10-20 hoping that lens would have been out by now.

BTW guillermovilas that is a sharp shot !
I`m thinking more of the Tamron 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 which has a more interesting reach , a good walkaround lens :-)
Hmmm... I hadn't read or heard about that one yet. Looks very interesting to say the least !

I personally haven't tried the existing 12-24 Tokina and Nikon nor the 11-18 Tamron but I have read a great deal of reviews between the existing Sigma, Tamron and Tokina ultra wide offerings. My hunch is that these new lenses may take ultra wide for dx sensors to the next level - if there is such a place?

Thanks for the tip !

joeybob Jul 6, 2008 1:07 AM

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Thought I'd resurect this thread... Have recently purchased the 18-200mm f3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM and I am pleased... This lens is not a low light lens but it does a great job IMHO... I haven't had the pleasure of shooting w/the 18-200 VR but this Sigma version does great as far as I am concerned - especially @ under $400.00 ...

NHL Jul 7, 2008 7:36 AM

NHL wrote:

-> I'll follow with my Tokina 16-50 f/2.8 shortly... ;)
I did a 20x30 enlargement with this lens recently and was amazed by its IQ. This Tokina 16-50 f/2.8 focuses extremely fast - i.e. from closest to infinity in a 1/4 of a turn of the focusing ring (using the D300's super smooth built-in motor):

-> Just can't wait to try their 11-18 super wide next... Probably the sharpest (and fastest) lens in this focal lenght at this time regardless of brand! :cool:

tommysdad Jul 11, 2008 6:54 PM

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I wasnt impressed with my copy of the Tamron 28-75, I changed it for the 17-50 F2.8 ,I'm glad I did :cool: .I use it on my D300 90% of the time.I have a Sigma 10-20 ,Sigma 70-200 f2.8 Hsm.
I've never had any complaints over picture quality with my Tamron and Sigma's.


Nikon D300,Sigma 10-20 , Sb800,Sb600 fired on radio triggers

musket Jul 21, 2008 4:36 PM

Comparisons between tamron and tokina lenses


gregg Jul 23, 2008 11:31 PM

Maybe our humble moderators will now add a new category, "third party lens for Nikon" under DSLR Cameras

On a tight budget, and wanting one lens as a carry around choice for general purpose...I had the opportunity to pick up a quantaray 18-200mm OS lens for my D40. It is a re-branded sigma and does get some fair-good reviews in so much as an "all-in-one" lens can. It is different from sigma's non-stabilized 18-200 lens (which received more negative reviews as being much too soft overall). This one, they added two elements. It also has a HSM motor (auto focus) and a lock switch to prevent creeping. Admittedly, the pics do get sharper between f7 and f13, but that's certainly no problem with image stabilization and the florida sunshine. It is sold I believe exclusively at Ritz Cameras for $529. I managed to get a used one for $190!!!!


You also should consider what you will do with the photo...The larger the images (or the closer to 100%) and the amount of cropping plus what size you will print all will play a factor in the lens you select. If I was printing poster size images, I probably wouldn't be using this lens. And I probably would also want a higher megapixel count then the 6mp offered by the d40.

Likewise, if I was only shooting night photography without a tripod or in very dark indoor environments, this lens would probably not be my first choice. That's not to say you can't use it indoors, you can...although I would consider 400iso and an external flash. At the right settings the results can be quite good.

I just purchased it recently. When I have something to post, I will. And my D40 is my first DSLR.

(another review and sample photos on a canon)

if you want to see samples go to Pbase then click the photo, then click it again to see that person's gallery. Or on the first page click "more" to see other samples. You can see what kind of camera it was attached to at the bottom of the photo:

ron519098 Sep 1, 2008 4:52 PM

I did make the suggestion that third party lenses should have their own category some time ago, but the idea wasn't thought appropriate.

Maybe someone can think again?

JimC Sep 2, 2008 8:10 AM

We probably just need to change the titles and descriptions. The existing categories were not meant to be for the camera manufacturer branded lenses only (i.e., any lens that can be used on a Nikon dSLR is fine in the Nikon lenses forum).

We don't want to make many changes to anything in the existing software setup right this minute, as we're working on a project to enhance the forums right now (and we are looking at ways to do nested forums for more granularity, which may be one approach to third party lenses). Another concern is that when you start getting too many forums, posts are more spread out when someone is looking for something.

For example, someone is looking for a bright zoom for sports would have to look in multiple forums to find out what may be suitable, versus a single lens forum for any lens that can be used on a specific camera mount). The amount of posts in a given forum is also a consideration, as the traffic may not warrant separate categories. For example, we haven't even added a separate lens forum for KM/Sony dSLR models yet because there isn't really enough traffic yet to justify it (and more forums increases page load times).

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