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Old Feb 7, 2010, 6:24 AM   #21
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Superzoom lenses are convenient, but that's all they are. There isn't one superzoom lens that is better than two lenses of less ambitious zoom ranges for roughly the same or less money.

The quality of the images will last long after the inconvenience of having to carry around multiple lenses.
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Old Feb 7, 2010, 8:33 AM   #22
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Superzoom lenses are convenient, but that's all they are. There isn't one superzoom lens that is better than two lenses of less ambitious zoom ranges for roughly the same or less money.

The quality of the images will last long after the inconvenience of having to carry around multiple lenses.
WRONG!!! Take a look at my site and tell me that.
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Every SINGLE picture you see there was taken with ZOOM lenses, the majority with the TAMRON Zoom lenses too.
If you really believe that, your old school and behind the times....
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Old Feb 7, 2010, 8:55 AM   #23
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Take a look at:

Tamron 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II LD Aspherical IF Macro AF (Tested) ($470 at Adorama.com)
or
Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC LD Aspherical IF Macro AF (Tested) ($549 at Adorama.com after $50 rebate)
or
Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM (Tested) ($529 at Adorama.com)

versus

Tamron 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2 AF (Tested) ($165 at Adorama.com)
and
Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro (Tested) ($369 at Adorama.com)

And JOOC, where did you learn this:

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... the new Nikon VR II lenses "borrowed" Tamrons VC technology for their new lenses.
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Old Feb 7, 2010, 12:23 PM   #24
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I've read most of the reviews out there on those lenses.
I've had most of them too. Those shots are on my website. I'll take these zooms over a PRIME any day.
Maybe a Prime lens will be a Tad more crisp, but you will miss more shots with those than with the zooms.
I just got the Tamron 18-270mm VC so my verdict isn't in on that yet, but I don't expect it to be much different from the other ones. I really did like the 18-250mm I had...

As for Nikon "borrowing" the VC for their new VR II, I don't know just how true that is as I got that info from the Nikon guys at a professional camera shop that has been in business for over 30 years. The guy who told me is a Nikon equipment die-hard, but he is very impressed with the latest Tamron.
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I'm not talking about primes. I'm talking about the inherent problems in making a lens with a long zoom range. As far as image quality goes, you're better off with a Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5 and an Tamron 70-300 Di LD than with anybody's superzoom. I understand that you've been pleased with your superzoom lenses, but for someone concerned with image quality, there's plenty of data to support the assertion that multiple lenses of less ambitious zoom ranges will provide better image quality than a single superzoom. Zoom lenses are a compromise, and superzooms are a supercompromise. Your choice depends on how much you are willing to compromise.
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As for Nikon "borrowing" the VC for their new VR II, I don't know just how true that is as I got that info from the Nikon guys at a professional camera shop that has been in business for over 30 years. The guy who told me is a Nikon equipment die-hard, but he is very impressed with the latest Tamron.
So because some guy is impressed with Tamron's VC, he thinks that Nikon "borrowed" it for their VR-II, and you repeat it as fact?
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I'm not talking about primes. I'm talking about the inherent problems in making a lens with a long zoom range. As far as image quality goes, you're better off with a Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5 and an Tamron 70-300 Di LD than with anybody's superzoom. I understand that you've been pleased with your superzoom lenses, but for someone concerned with image quality, there's plenty of data to support the assertion that multiple lenses of less ambitious zoom ranges will provide better image quality than a single superzoom. Zoom lenses are a compromise, and superzooms are a supercompromise. Your choice depends on how much you are willing to compromise.
I've had most of those lenses and used them. Have you?
I'll say it one more time... look at my website and tell me if I compromise anything.
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So because some guy is impressed with Tamron's VC, he thinks that Nikon "borrowed" it for their VR-II, and you repeat it as fact?
It seems your spoiling for an argument as I didn't state it as a FACT as you say... if you read it properly I said quote:
"....As for Nikon "borrowing" the VC for their new VR II, I don't know just how true that is as I got that info from the Nikon guys at a professional camera shop..."
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It seems your spoiling for an argument as I didn't state it as a FACT as you say...


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Not only that, but the new Nikon VR II lenses "borrowed" Tamrons VC technology for their new lenses.
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I've had most of those lenses and used them. Have you?
I'm not interested in anecdotes.

I'm pleased that those lenses work well for what you want to do.

I'm interested in the results of qualitiative analyses.

SLRGear says superzoom lenses aren't as good as other, cheaper lenses.

PhotoZone.de says superzoom lenses aren't as good as other, cheaper lenses.

Maybe you got some really good ones. Maybe they got some really bad ones. I'm interested in the one I might get. I'll trust their detailed tests results more so than I'll trust the handful of shots you liked enough to post on your website.
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