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Old Aug 23, 2009, 12:38 PM   #1
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OK folks, I'm just getting back into photography after a long absence, and have picked up a D40 kit (with the 18-55) and a 70-300VR. I have been thinking about going with a little shorter lens next, and the two that catch my eye are:

A: Nikkor 10-24f3.5-4.5, 16.2 oz, ~$810 at B&H
B: Nikkor 12-24f4, 16.4 oz (if I did the math right, strange that Nikon would list one lens' weight in grams and another in oz. on their website), ~$940 at B&H

So I assume that when you are talking about lenses this short that 2mm is fairly significant. So is a fixed f4 worth trading 2mm on the short end? Is a variable f-stop of 3.5-4.5 that much of a detriment?

My apologies if this has been covered. I looked through the first 10 pages of threads and didn't find an answer to my questions.

Also, any hints on how to get the most out of a superwide? My shortest lens when shooting film was a 24f2.8D.

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OK folks, I'm just getting back into photography after a long absence, and have picked up a D40 kit (with the 18-55) and a 70-300VR. I have been thinking about going with a little shorter lens next, and the two that catch my eye are:

A: Nikkor 10-24f3.5-4.5, 16.2 oz, ~$810 at B&H
B: Nikkor 12-24f4, 16.4 oz (if I did the math right, strange that Nikon would list one lens' weight in grams and another in oz. on their website), ~$940 at B&H

So I assume that when you are talking about lenses this short that 2mm is fairly significant. So is a fixed f4 worth trading 2mm on the short end? Is a variable f-stop of 3.5-4.5 that much of a detriment?

My apologies if this has been covered. I looked through the first 10 pages of threads and didn't find an answer to my questions.

Also, any hints on how to get the most out of a superwide? My shortest lens when shooting film was a 24f2.8D.

Thanks, all!
I don't think constant, fast aperture is all that important with a lens this wide. Your DOF is large, even at bigger apertures, and you'll typically be shooting this lens stopped down anyway. I have a Sigma 10-20, and love it..it's very wide and a lot cheaper than the Nikkors. The key to using ultrawides is depth. Think foreground, middle, background, and there should be elements in each. Otherwise, you just have a wide, flat image.
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rj,

Do you have the f3.5 model or the f4-5.6?
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I guess you have to call me the "traditionalist," I have the Nikon 12-24mm lens and have been very happy with it. This lens has great depth of field, so you must take advantage of it. Here is a photo sample.

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Old Aug 23, 2009, 2:36 PM   #5
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Hi Sarah! Nice shot!

Can you explain what you mean by traditionalist? Do you mean you like the constant f-stop?
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I purchased my Nikon 12-24mm lens even before Tokina and Sigma had their wide zooms available. When I purchased, that was THE lens for Nikon. That was more than a few years ago.

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rj,

Do you have the f3.5 model or the f4-5.6?
I have the older, f4-5.6 version
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A very interesting comparison. I have been working with a number of different cameras today. Because I have had some serious qualms about Panasonic producing a totally automatic camera in the ZS1/ZS3 series. I decided to test the ZS1 which has a 25mm wide angle against the D-40 camera with the Nikon 12-24mm lens that I took earlier. It was exactly the same photo scene.

I was sure it was going to be folly as there was no Exposure Compensation even available on the ZS1. None the less, I headed out on to the back deck in the very bright sunshine and had a hard time framing the photo on the sunshine smeared LCD. I stepped back inside so I could view the resulting photo.

Well, frankly, I was amazed! Here is an automatic camera priced at about $(US)225.00, that really does automatically take the photo while applying all of the need corrections automatically. I guess we have advanced farther and faster than I really believed.

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So I ended up buying a Tamron 10-24 f/3.5-4.5. If I can drag my lazy butt out of bed early tomorrow I'll give her a run through.
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Congratulations, Kurt-

I am sure that you will like the lens. Post some photos when you have a chance.

Have a great day.

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