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Old Oct 23, 2011, 11:33 AM   #1
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Default 1000mm Birds (600 f4/TC17II)

The first time I've used the TC17 to this combo. I didn't know what to expect, but it seems OK at the minimum focal distance of the 600 f4.

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Old Oct 23, 2011, 11:42 AM   #2
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Most of these are full height crops. I'm not a huge fan to the 2/3 ratio for non-lanscapes.

This one isn't cropped.



5/4 crop



Square crop



Another square crop



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Default A couple at about twice the distance

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Cropped quite alot




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Default These are wide open at f6.7

Peek a Boo



Can you say "Narrow DOF"




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Well, I was wondering when you were post a few images using that monster.

These images are all very sharp, crisp, with exceptional feather detail.

I'm curious, roughly how far away were you from your subjects?

Reason being, as good as there are, the feather detail on most all of your bird images using the 300mm f2.8 were just stunning

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With that combination, do you use a spotting scope to search for subjects, do you just keep sweeping until you find something to shoot, or do you point the camera at some fixed pint and wait for subjects to wander into you field of view?
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Well, I was wondering when you were post a few images using that monster.

These images are all very sharp, crisp, with exceptional feather detail.

I'm curious, roughly how far away were you from your subjects?

Reason being, as good as there are, the feather detail on most all of your bird images using the 300mm f2.8 were just stunning

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Hi Zig,

These were all taken at just over the minimum focal distance of 16 feet. The minimun focus of the 300mm Zuiko was half of that, so you can fill the frame with a much smaller TC if you can get close enough. That was one of the things I was concerned about loosing in the Nikon change over. Picking up the TC17 was in some measure a necessity because of that one single factor.

The 300mm Zuiko is simply outstanding. Paired with the E-5, it gives nothing up against the D3s/600 f4 when we talk just resolution, and it does it at half the cost. The EC-14 could be added with no real drop in resoulution. Its just an outstanding setup, plus you could use the EC-20 to really fill the frame with very small things. Thumbs up all the way by my measure.

Now about the 600 f4 on FX, it has some advantages too. Shooting these birds today, there was some shadows that the E-5 sensor would have had difficulty with. You can pull the shadows up much, much more with the big sensor. The focus on the D3s is better, even with the aperture of f6.7 when combined with the TC17.

I must say I'm pleased, but if I get a 2x converter, I'll use it only for macro.

Anyway, I suppose crops are in order.

This is the wide open shot. How much DOF?



From the square crop photo above.



And from the Peek a Boo shot (also wide open)



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With that combination, do you use a spotting scope to search for subjects, do you just keep sweeping until you find something to shoot, or do you point the camera at some fixed pint and wait for subjects to wander into you field of view?
I think I'm alot closer to the subject than you might believe. I'm less that 20 ft from these birds.

I'm shooting off a tripod with a gimbal head. I won't even seriously consider shooting 1000mm handheld. I had my perch in focus and just had to follow it up or down when a bird landed on it. The nuthatches are a pain, as you usually just see the flash of them flying away as you get there. They don't stay still for long.
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Amazing shots.
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