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Old Mar 14, 2004, 9:59 PM   #11
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One more from the Parade @ f9
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Old Nov 2, 2004, 3:16 AM   #12
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cowboy, with more time using it how has the Tamron been for you? One concern I've read about is build quality, but again I'm not overly impressed by the build quality of the D70's 18-70 kit lens (in particular the lens hood).
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Old Nov 2, 2004, 11:23 AM   #13
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I have to admit that I wasn't impressed with the kit lens so went and bought the 17/55 F2.8 which is magnificent, but is not exactly a lens to travel with, (heavy and bulky)so I went back to experimenting with the kit lens. To my horror I find it is quite adequate and performs well under most situations, except where F2.8 is a necessity. I haven't wasted my money I thought, but now seeing cowboy43's pictures using the Tamron I am convinced that I should have looked more seriously at Sigma and Tamron.

Looking at the specifications of the lens though, I don't think I could live with the minimum 42mm in digital terms, but I could live with the Sigma 18/50 F2.8 EXDC lens they have brought out especially for digital cameras. This translates to 27/75 in digital terms of course.It is on sale on Ebay for about £250 and I am sure I have wasted my money on the Nikon equivalent. I am not one to examine my shots under a microscope!

I am more and more convinced that the "lesser manufacturers" are getting close in quality to the prime manufacturers. Cowboy has shown us that it is the photographer not the lens, and I compliment him on the shot of Charlie. Superb.

In conclusion Onyx, I think you should think about the consequences of the lack of wide angle. I had the 24/120 old Nikkor and it was adequate for most things for many years until I went digital, then I realised how much I used the wide angle. If I had my time over again I would have bought the body and the Sigma.
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Old Nov 3, 2004, 12:58 AM   #14
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I've also been considering, among many options in various classes, the D70. One of the packages I've seen has included these two lens, for a package price around $70.00 cheaper than the package with the Nikkor lense:

Sigma 28-80mm Autofocus Lens
  • Mount: Nikon AF [/*]
  • Lens Constructions: 7 Groups 7 Elements [/*]
  • Angle of View (Diagonal): 75.4 degrees -30.3 degrees [/*]
  • Minimum Aperture: f22 [/*]
  • Minimum Focusing Distance: 19-inches (9.8-inches Macro) / .5m (.25m Macro) [/*]
  • Magnifications: 1:5.4 (1:2 Macro): [/*]
  • Filter Size: 55 [/*]
  • Dimensions (Dia x Length) 2.7 x 2.8inches / 69.5 x 71.4mm / (Fully Extended Length 96.5mm / 3.8in) [/*]
  • Weight: 9oz / 255g
[/*]
Sigma 70-300mm Autofocus Lens
  • Mount: Nikon AF [/*]
  • Lens Constructions: 10 Groups 14 Elements [/*]
  • Angle of View: 34.3 degrees -8.2 degrees [/*]
  • Number of blades in diaphragm: 9 [/*]
  • Minimum Aperture: f22-32 [/*]
  • Minimum Focusing Distance: 150cm / 59.1in (Macro 95cm / 37.4in) [/*]
  • Magnifications: 1:4 ( 1:2 Macro) [/*]
  • Filter Size: 58mm [/*]
  • Dimensions (Dia x Length) 74.5 x 119.5mm / 2.9 x 4.7in (Fully Extended Length 208.3mm / 8.2in) [/*]
  • Weight: 585g / 20.6oz
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Being very new (to say the least) in the lens shopping area, can anyone give some feedback on these two lenses, or either of them? Looking purely at the ranges covered between the two, it sure looks like I'd a lot more versatility between these two then with just the nikkor (and, obviously, I don't own any lens currently).

Buying the camera kit for around $1300 bucks would basically tap out my camera budget for the foreseeable future. Even with just the Nikkor kit lens I could probably make due for a while if I had two, but it really seems more appealing to have the two lens option to start with, unless the lens are so cheap or otherwise limited as to be a complete waste of time.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Old Nov 3, 2004, 8:46 AM   #15
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I recently obtained the Tamron 28-75 F2.8 with the Canon EOS mount and it performs well. I am quite pleased with it. It's focusing speed is acceptable, but it is nowhere near as fast as a lens with an ultrasonic drive.



Ibelieve both of those Sigma lenses are listed in this lens review site http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#Zstf
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Old Nov 3, 2004, 10:51 AM   #16
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Hi Wannabe,

Those 2 Sigma lens are very low end. The D70 Kit lens is an outstanding value. You should not go without it unless you want apro lens that will cost lots of $$$$.

To complement the 18-70 kit lens, you can get a Nikon 70-300D for around $100 USD or the Sigma 70-300 Macro Super II for around $150 US. Both are OK lens, but are a little bit slow on focusing.
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Old Nov 3, 2004, 2:31 PM   #17
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Thanks a bunch for the link.

Thanks Morris for your reply. That's really helpful because I do want to get some kind of zome capability and that sounds like a real value. I probably won't have a need for anything real fast as I don't anticipate shooting much in the way of sporting events.

Thanks again.
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Old Nov 8, 2004, 1:06 AM   #18
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How fast is the focusing on the Tamron 28-75 2.8, especially for indoor sports? I've read various things about the focusing speed. If I used the lens for an indoor sport like basketball, will the lens do a lot of hunting when mounted on my D70 or not? Most everything else about the lens seems to get high praise and the price is good, my only concern based on research is the AF speed. Obviously I'm not expecting it to be as fast as a AF-S/USM/HSM lens, but I would want it to keep up during sports. Thanks!
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Old Nov 9, 2004, 4:26 AM   #19
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Alright, I spent most of Monday doing research between the Tamron 28-75 2.8 and similar lenses. :?
Based on what I read, my first choice is the Tamron followed by the Tokina 28-70 (looks nice, especially for about $250 new), then pretty much a toss-up between the Tokina 28-80 and Sigma 28-70, with the Sigma 24-70 in last. These are all 2.8 EX/Pro series I was looking at. One problem with the Sigmas, as I found previously when I got my 70-300 zoom, is the number of very similar variations of the same lens, which can skew the reviews since a reviewer could give a negative review but it's the non-DF version or something along those lines.
Anyway, from what I read the Tamron got the highest overall scores (compared 'best of 5' ratings from four sources) in particular for superior optics, including sharpness at 2.8. Both Tokinas got high marks for build quality and very good optics. At least the Tokina 28-70 and Tamron seemed to get good marks for AF speed (though obviously not as fast as AF-S type systems). One problem seeming to dog all the lenses I looked at is inconsistent quality. Two additional bonuses with the Tamron are the six-year warranty and smaller (i.e. cheaper) filter size.
I'm hoping the local camera store (probably Ritz) will have the Tamron and at least one of the Tokinas and Sigmas available to test out. Combined with the longer zoom I'm getting--it appears that will be the Sigma 70-200 EX HSM--I look forward to covering sports with faster lenses (FINALLY).
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murphyc wrote:
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Two additional bonuses with the Tamron are the six-year warranty and smaller (i.e. cheaper) filter size... (FINALLY).
The Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 is a full-frame (ie larger filter size) whereas the Tamron is for APS-C sized cameras! Same with the Tokina (and why they are "inconsistent quality")

--> Be careful of ratings since the Sigma (and Tokina) could be penalized at the peripherals when reviewed on a full-frame but you're only using the best center portion of this lens on a D70.

The lighter for 'cropped' camera 24-60mm f/2.8 (smaller filter) is more in line with the Tamron... :idea:
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