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Steven R Mar 3, 2011 10:32 PM

Some kind of bird
 
More shots with the 70-300. Interesting looking bird, but I have no idea what kind it is. :confused::confused:

http://stevenr.smugmug.com/photos/11...50_bKFvK-L.jpg

http://stevenr.smugmug.com/photos/11...31_JiLwa-L.jpg

diverdave Mar 4, 2011 2:41 AM

It is some kind of heron I think. The bird folks on this site will give you the exact species.

zig-123 Mar 4, 2011 6:24 AM

HI Steven,

That is an Indian Pond Heron. Commonly found in India. Not sure how common this bird is in the states. The green markings around the bill and just under the eyes identify it as such.

Zig

boBBrennan Mar 4, 2011 8:11 AM

I surely would not have known but Steven, I have a question..... where was this photo made, are there pine trees in Florida? I've never been to Florida, perhaps in the northern area there may be pine trees. Just curious

Steven R Mar 4, 2011 9:25 AM

Thanks for the information guys. It was not a bird that I had seen before, and had no idea what it was.

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Originally Posted by boBBrennan (Post 1205893)
I surely would not have known but Steven, I have a question..... where was this photo made, are there pine trees in Florida? I've never been to Florida, perhaps in the northern area there may be pine trees. Just curious

Hi Bob. The photo was made in Tampa, at Lowry Park. Yes, we have pine trees all over, probably one of the most common tree, and lots of oak also. While we have plenty of palms, there are actually more pines. In fact, up in the panhandle area, there are a lot of managed and cultivated pine forests owned by paper companies.

In the woods behind our house, there are a lot of pines mixed in with the other trees.
http://stevenr.smugmug.com/Nature/ba...40_jna6w-M.jpg

boBBrennan Mar 4, 2011 10:28 AM

Thanks Steven, I have been to Atlanta many times, when I was working, and thought probably there might be pine in upper parts of Florida but I just never associated pine with most of the state.

I need to go to more places, I've always been Missouri & West never have seen any of the Atlantic areas.

fldspringer Mar 4, 2011 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zig-123 (Post 1205877)
HI Steven,

That is an Indian Pond Heron. Commonly found in India. Not sure how common this bird is in the states. The green markings around the bill and just under the eyes identify it as such.

Zig

I'd have guessed an American Bittern.

Steven R Mar 4, 2011 8:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fldspringer (Post 1206081)
I'd have guessed an American Bittern.

Well that's interesting, now we have two candidates. I have no idea what to think. Here is another shot of it; maybe we can reach a consensus
http://stevenr.smugmug.com/photos/11...64_e89wP-L.jpg

Scouse Mar 4, 2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fldspringer (Post 1206081)
I'd have guessed an American Bittern.

That's what I would have said.....but then, I've never been to India...:)

Just googled these:- Am Bittern
http://sdakotabirds.com/species_phot..._bittern_1.jpg

Indian Pond Heron
http://cdn2.arkive.org/media/FD/FD21...ed-in-tree.jpg

My money is with the Bittern, we have them up here and they do have that "nose in the air snooty look"

zig-123 Mar 5, 2011 6:23 AM

this is what I found when trying to answer Steven;

http://ibc.lynxeds.com/files/imageca...nd_heron_3.jpg

Steven R Mar 5, 2011 9:39 AM

In looking at the photos, both birds are very, very, similar, but it looks like Zig is right. The area between the eye and beak, and the markings on the chest seems to more resemble Zig's bird. But it is amazing how much the two different species resemble each other. A quick glance would lead one to think they are the same species. So maybe it's still up in the air.

Well, that was a fun exercise. I'm not a bird expert, and I just couldn't recall ever see one like that before. I'm going to be on the lookout to see if I see him again and get some more shots.

fldspringer Mar 5, 2011 4:41 PM

Here's a bird from wiki American Bittern site.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...qually_NWR.jpg

I don't see anything that locates the Indian Pond Heron outside the Indian ocean/SE Asia area, but it certainly wouldn't be the first invasive species in Florada.

Size would be something to take into acount. The Indian Pond Heron is usually less that 18" long and the American Bittern is over 22".

Steven R Mar 5, 2011 8:24 PM

Well guys, I'm not a bird expert, so we may never know. But in studying the photos closely, the bitten seems to have a darker area in front on the eye, and the heron seems to have a lighter area in front of the eye, which matches the eye of the bird in my shots.

I guess we will never know for sure, but it seems that my bird may be the heron. Very interesting. You guys are sharp, the way you came up with those photos.

tkurkowski Mar 6, 2011 8:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fldspringer (Post 1206326)
but it certainly wouldn't be the first invasive species in Florida.

Greg, they're not invading, they're being imported (usually illegally) by the residents.

After hurricane Andrew went through with it's path of destruction the Miami Zoo got lots of calls to come get their animals (from other continents) that were loose and running around. Most of them were species the Miami Zoo never had.

Ted


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