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Old Dec 10, 2006, 6:09 PM   #11
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Hi Greg

That shot of your cat looks excellent for an ISo1600 - lots of detail still there esp around the eyes and the hair around headand ears. I've not got my head around C1 yet but from those results the images look just great. Are the jpeg file sizes the same or slightly larger than before ?

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Old Dec 11, 2006, 7:55 PM   #12
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Are the jpeg file sizes the same or slightly larger than before ?

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Good observation.

I am noticing in the 3-4 images from several months ago where I've gone back and re-processed them this evening where the files are slightly smaller in these new JPEG's. Not by a great deal... something on the order of 4.70MB instead of 4.85MB of the files I created earlier, but the trend with all the ones I've tried is the same. I'm going to continue with the testing. Fortunately I have several months worth of images where I've been testing the high ISO quality, so I do have a good selection of files to go back, research and compare old JPEG's to new..
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some nice clean frames there
im getting some good ideas about noise...thanks !

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 10:56 AM   #14
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Hi Folks,

After all the travel woes back to India ... finally found the opportunity to
find that 800 ISO shot.

Now I really don't think that noise is that big an issue.

Here's the shot converted from RAW using CaptureOne. I didn't
fiddle at all with noise parameters.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 10:58 AM   #15
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And for those really worried by noise. Here's a shot filtered thru NeatImage.

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 6:36 AM   #16
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Hi Gaggu

From those shots - i'd say they look basically the same and can as I can;t see any noise in the first shot either. I've never used Neatimage on any of my E1 shots in RAw and usually make no adjustment to the NR in Lightroom either.

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Hi HarjTT,

Thats exactly the point I wanted to make. The noise is there but
"as a matter of fact" it is not making all that big a difference. But
majority of the review sites highlight the noise issue in case of Oly
gear.

(Anything which is not Canon or Nikon is just not good enough. Even
the Pentax K10D, which I personally think is a great camera for the
price you pay, is (Just) Highly Recommended on dpreview. Thank God
I bought E 500)

And if you are worried about noise then I think "exposing to the right"
does in fact help.

And here's another article which does confirm that. Esp. the
ISO Accuracy table near the end of that article.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...s/e1-2nd.shtml

And as Greg already told us that he prints sizes close to A4 w/o any
troubles ... I am personally (now) not budged by the noise issue.

Although on personal front this is one isolated case where I got darn
good result, I am sure this is repeatable.

What du think ...

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Old Dec 30, 2006, 9:59 PM   #18
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I shot wrestling and cheerleading pictures of my kids in a dimly lit high school gym at 1600 ISO on my E-500 with the 40-150mm kit lens all the time. I simply run them through NeatImage, moving the chrominance channels to 100%, maybe a little luminance (10-20% max), and then sharpen them slightly if posting to the internet or printing big prints, but otherwise leave the sharpening slider alone.

Noise removal on the E-series cameras is easy greasy, whereas removing noise from my Panasonic FZ1 400 ISO shots was a nightmare and the end result looked like I was going for something artistic, like a watercolor effect or something. It was so bad, that I gave up on noise removal programs, and just assumed that other people were more tolerant of the end product of NR programs than me or something!


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