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Old Apr 3, 2007, 12:38 PM   #1
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test images, im just downloading some now

http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...pus_e-410.html

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Old Apr 3, 2007, 2:43 PM   #2
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i ran this iso1600 image through noise ninja, auto profile for an index of 23

http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...mals_zoom7.jpg

then i downloaded this image from a canon xti

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_...s/IMG_1613.JPG

which is also iso 1600 and cleans up ok, has an index on auto profile of 42

is it too optimistic to say they've cracked it ?

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Old Apr 3, 2007, 6:20 PM   #3
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Hi Riley

Hey thanks for posting those shots. ISO400/800 looks very promising and ISO1600 not bad at all. I'm assuming that the cam still has early firmware and that the noise will be even better with the final cam. I think with the RAW files we'd get something that lil bit better at ISO1600.

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Old Apr 3, 2007, 11:08 PM   #4
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hey Harj
yes i think its time to add iso3,200 on there
never thought i would be saying that anytime soon

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Old Apr 4, 2007, 3:34 AM   #5
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Very impressive.

I'm not convinced your test there is fair though Riley, as you are comparing a shot at 1/400 sec in outdoor light to an XTi test in low indoor light at 1/30 sec. I think the longer exposure will impact the noise.

But, I'm not expecting them to beat Canon and Nikon on high ISO noise, just be in the same ballpark with these.

A better comparison might be the test shots by the same reviewer/photographer, taken at the same location a week earlier with the new D40X.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...d40x_test.html

I have to do some pixel peeping to see any difference in those, but I do think the D40x shots there still look just a hair better (as regards noise anyway) at high ISO. Not enough to affect any camera buying deccisions for me though, especially given other advantages of Olympus. Also, note the Nikon shots were taken with a new 55-200 f4-5.6 VR. The non VR version runs about $170, but who knows what they'll charge for the VR version?

And that D40X combo weighs about 250g more than the E-410 and 40-150 f4-5.6. And I don't see any real advantage in lens offerings with the D40 cameras, as most all the good Nikon primes won't autofocus with it. And they don't even have more than 3 focus points, which seems to be the only complaint that anyone will have left with these new Olympus cameras.

You might compare these ISO 1600 butterfly shots:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...als_zoom14.jpg
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...rdam_EN15.html

Or these ISO 100 and ISO 200 turtles:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...mals_zoom5.jpg
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...rdam_EN16.html

Or two more similar buterfly shots at ISO 200:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...als_zoom17.jpg
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...rdam_EN18.html

And, not as similar, but two floral shots at full zoom:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...als_zoom16.jpg
http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/re...erdam_EN7.html

I think the recent Nikons tend to produce very saturated jpegs. I've got to admit that seems to work pretty well for butterflies (amongst other things). But sometimes the Nikon shots look less natural to me than the Olympus, as with those flowers, and with foliage generally. Or the orange in the background of that second butterfly shot, which is too orange--though the shot looks great overall.

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im supposed to be fair now <g>
make em bleed lol

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Old Apr 5, 2007, 12:20 PM   #7
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iso 1600 and it clears up nicely, they should add 3200

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Old Apr 6, 2007, 7:08 AM   #8
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ok heres a few more

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/we...4/06/6006.html

and from that shoot

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static...06/vol1_08.jpg

you are supposed to be looking at the superb detail

did i mention the detail ?

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Old Apr 6, 2007, 10:09 AM   #9
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Those shots from dc.watch are pretty impressive. Did you check out the lenses used for that shoot? The 14-54ZD and the Leica D 25mm f1.4 summliux with the 410. From the pics I think the outdoor shots are definelty with the ZD as thay have that look and feel. The indoor shots I'm not so sure but those according to the transaltion were taken at ISO400 f2.8 @1/30s. The photographers impression of the 25mm leica:

"This 25mm, just a little is expensive, but to be securely made, very the high-class impression. It may be able to expect also being taken."

Looks very promising indeed - thats the camera and the lenses.

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Old Apr 6, 2007, 10:16 AM   #10
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hey Harj
yeah its great isnt it
i think it looks like working out better than i ever expected

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