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Old May 8, 2008, 10:54 PM   #11
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Thanks for posting that observation. I don't do a lot of portraits and I never thought about the fact that given a choice, folks would rather have distortion that makes them look thinner rather than more plump.

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hi Ted,a great portrait lens is the rokkor 58mm 1.4, because of its pincushion distortion and other attributes - very sharp with beautiful bokeh. just does a great job. very complimentary for most folks. makes the ladys happy! cheap too, even with a adaptor.

im assuming hes getting further into fashion/modeling shoots, where the full length is required. I think sharpness isnt an issue, but the zoom range will be. It would seem to me that the 12-60 was in the end more suitable (not requiring the additional WA avalable).

BTW Ive just acquired a Konica Hexanon AR 57/1.2 for a tad over $150, might be a few weeks coming down the pipe from the US. This is said to be one of the best lenses ever made so Im pretty excited about it.

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Old May 9, 2008, 5:10 AM   #12
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BTW Ive just acquired a Konica Hexanon AR 57/1.2 for a tad over $150, might be a few weeks coming down the pipe from the US. This is said to be one of the best lenses ever made so Im pretty excited about it.

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Hi,

As an owner of a Konica FT-1 35mm slr, I'll be very curious to see a few of your photos with the 57mm/F1.2. I have the 50mm F1.7 and find it to be very briight and extremely sharp. It's a great lens. Another highly regarded KonicaHexanon, especially for portraits, is the 85mm F1.8 AR. It's price is usually toosteep for me to consider.

Anyways...good luck and hope you post a few pics when you get the 57mmF1.2.

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Old May 9, 2008, 5:44 AM   #13
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im assuming hes getting further into fashion/modeling shoots, where the full length is required. I think sharpness isnt an issue, but the zoom range will be. It would seem to me that the 12-60 was in the end more suitable (not requiring the additional WA avalable).

BTW Ive just acquired a Konica Hexanon AR 57/1.2 for a tad over $150, might be a few weeks coming down the pipe from the US. This is said to be one of the best lenses ever made so Im pretty excited about it.

Riley

sharpness is alwaysan issue. not to confuse two different subjects, fashion/modeling shootsmight be better done with a leica 25, in the rangeHarj islooking at, but if space is adequate, a rokkor 58 will do the trick very nicely. but Harj is not looking for a manual lens anyway.

if the hex is anywhere near as good asa rokkor 58 1.2, you'll have some fun

i have some hex's here for bayonet replacement/conversion to 4/3. one of these days i'll get going on that project.
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Hi Guys

Been reading the replies with interest although works been really busy and I've now just had time to post.

I've got a few reasons why I've been looking at the 11-22:

1. I've found in studio when the space for shooting has been restricted that the 14-54 hasn;t been wide enough for me to get the shot without having to step back a lot further than I'd like. That then means I'm having to recompose to angle that I may not actally want and that I might have to crop the final shot. Me being me I'd rather not crop.
2. Sharpness - the 14-54ZD just doesn't seem to be as sharp as I'd like it to be unless I'm in right close. That lack of sharpness is pretty evident when you compare the shots from the F2 and from what I've read the 11-22 is quiet a bit sharper than the 14-54(altough there does seem to be a variation in the 14-54's where some are very good indeed), esp when wide open. I like the Leica D and I think I will at some point get the lens and it may just be perfect at 25mm but I know being able to shoot at around 14 and slightly less will be really handy.
3. Full length port's and different angles of composition - what i want to do is not have a standard portfolio of head/shoulder shots and I think the UW gives you that flexibility to be a bit more creative and push the envelope a wee bit.

A manual lens in studio I think would be just fine as you can make the time to get the shot you want but over 35mm + the F2 is simply more than adequate for what i want. Now if Oly or Panaleica did a 11mm f1.4 prime that might be a pretty interesting lens to have.

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Old May 9, 2008, 3:42 PM   #15
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if Oly or Panaleica did a 11mm f1.4 prime that might be a pretty interesting lens to have.

Hi, Harj

I did a quick check (before you posted this)to satisfy my curiosity, and the Leica 25mm FOV is roughly a 1:2 ratio - in portrait orientation the height you get is about half of the distance away you are (a 6' height requires being 11' to 12' away). So it's true that for a full-length photo of a human you need to be some distance away. (Of course, you already knew that from the 25mm setting on your 14-54.)

One point I would make is that it's not clear to me that the Leica is even being manufactured anymore. It's been out of stock at B&H forever, and it's selling for over retail price on EBay. I needed it for a shoot recently and feel fortunate that I got one in mint condition on EBay for $875 USD.

I don't recall ever seeing many fast 22mm (equivalent) lenses even in the film days - I wonder if there's enough of a market for available-light wide-angle lenses to motivate the manufacture of one in the 4/3 format.

Have you thought about the 12-60mm f/2.8-4SWD? If you could live with 12mm instead of 11mm, at $900USD it's the same price as the Leica 25mm, not a lot more expensive than the 11-22, and ithas received excellent reviews (PopPhoto said it was a bit better than the Leica 14-50 which they intended tobe high praise).

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another 4/3 conundrum. a D3 & 20mm f/2.8 would do the trick.
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another 4/3 conundrum. a D3 & 20mm f/2.8 would do the trick.
$5000 would keep it from being a conundrum for me (grin).

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lol, me to. 5D & 20mm 2.8 for $1600? think i'd use a 50 on my e1 & back up a few steps.
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think i'd use a 50 on my e1 & back up a few steps.
I didn't want to sound sarcastic, but that's the same thought I had.

I had the 50mm F2.0, it's a seriously sharp lens - I would try that and just back up a few ft.

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