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Old Jul 14, 2008, 5:44 PM   #21
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Wow! You guys have given me a lot to consider - thanks!

The ZD 35-100F2creates images that have a punch that's hard to quantify - whenever I shoot with it I wonder why the images created by most of my other lenses seem "flat", even though nothing else about my camera settings is different. My only problem is that it's heavy enough to be somewhat difficult to move around with, even on a monopod. (I'm notweak - it's just a fairly heavy beast.) That's why I'm reluctant to spend a lot of money on a fast prime lens as an occasional substitute (plus, divorces are way more expensive than any of these lenses...)

Although I haven't used Zeiss camera lenses, my experience with other Zeiss optics (eyeglass and telescope optics) tells me that they are top of the line. So although I'd love to buy one of the Zeiss prime lenses, that's hard to justify after spending over 2 large on the 35-100F2.

Also, there's the 4/3 adapter to consider - is there a less expensive but decent one available, besides the $175 adapters sold by cameraquest?

Thank you both for your suggestions. This Thursday I'm back in the weekly photo situation that started me wondering about this, and I'll make a note of exactly what FL I really will use (or can get away with using)if I have a fast prime FL only. Looking at the Exif data on the photos I've taken already, it looks like it needs to be at the long end of the range (ideally 100mm) which is not good news in the cost department.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 6:19 PM   #22
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Hi Ted,

As far as adapters for specific lenses are concerned, there are a couple of supplierson EBay that, I think, are fine. I purchased my OM adapter from Cirrus Adapter for around $25bucks. Quality and materials usedare very good.. I stilluse it today and have had no issues with it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OM-lens-adapter-...742.m153.l1262

There is also RJ camera assessory store that GWillys has experience with. Although, I saw no adapters for a Zeiss to 4/3 olympus adapter.

http://stores.ebay.com/RJ-camera-acc...Q3amesstQQtZkm



By the way, if that lens is getting heavy, eat some more Kielbasa.:-)

Addendum:

I've been a long time fan of Konica Hexanon lenses since I bought my first 35mm SLR which was a Konica. I still have a KonicaFT-1 Motor 35mm SLR. Often times, these days, Konica lenses are overlooked but they made some of the sharpest lenses available at the time. One that comes to mind is the 85mm F1.8 Konica Hexanon.

FWIW: here is a write-up about that lens: http://www.buhla.de/Foto/Konica/Objektive/e85_18.html

Heres another:http://cybernetdenis.net/lenses.htm

There happens to be oneavailable on Ebay for $299.

The one hitch is that there is no adapter required since it uses the same style mount as the 4/3 system. Some play needs to be removed through the use of a couple of shims which are fairly easily made and installed.





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Old Jul 14, 2008, 7:06 PM   #23
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By the way, if that lens is getting heavy, eat some more Kielbasa.:-)

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Hey - the fat content of kielbasa ain'y gonna help the situation. But if you could point me in the rightdirection for good pierogi I'd REALLY appreciate that (and so would my wife, who's not Polish but became a pierogi convert early on in our relationship).

Anyway, thanks for your advice, including the adapter sources. I'll see if an 85mm lens will work for me.

Your suggestion about Hexanon lenses made me smile and dusted off some old memory cells - after starting out in photography using a used Canon 35mm rangefinder (a very good Leica knock-off) and a Leica IIIf rangefinder, the first good film SLR cameras I bought wereKonicas, because they were the first ones to have automatic exposure setting capabilities. As you probably recall, they used a mechanical system that fed off of the mechanical light meter, not like the electronic systems used today. But they worked and I guess that because I've alwaysbeen a technogeek, that concept appealed to me. Their exposures worked well after you figured out what ASA (remember that?) to set each film at...

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 7:45 PM   #24
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Hi Ted,

Only kidding about the Kielbasa. My stomach starts to revolt as soon as I start thinking about perhaps getting some.

As for the Pierogi, funny you should bring that up. My neighbors mom isPolish. She lives in New Jersey but was here, visiting for a couple of weeks. She invited my wife to a day of Pierogi making last Thursday. To top it off, we were invited that evening to sample what the gals had made earlier that day. I hadn't had any authentic pierogis since my mom passed away in 2000. Needless, to say, it was a special night.

As for the Konica SLRs, sadly, I'vejust about forgotten how to use a 35mm. Yes, I still remember ASA, or film speed, replaced later by ISO. Film being ratherexpensive as compared to digital, I think I forgot to adjust the ASA/ISO dial once.

Good luck on your lens hunt.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 8:10 PM   #25
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hey Ted, as far as a zeiss zf 85 goes, its shortcomings/characteristics as described at photozone are very apparent. but its a great lens, warts n'all. when all the stars are in alignment, its images are...cant think of a word.

so, its lousy close up, doesnt focus very close anyway, has a kind of sharp/soft effect w/o, and has ca w/o in drastic conditions. its a portrait lens, as it was designed. for that purpose, i dont know of a better chunk of glass i could use. mytwo zf lenses, more than any other, make me think about what im doing, because i know their capabilities.

on the other hand, the best zuiko i have is a zd50. i just have a hard time buying expensive electric nanobot lenses, lol
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I've read good things about the Olympus 85mm F2. The Zuiko 90mm F2 macro as well as the 100m f2 lens are superiorand both would be better choices- I just couldn't find any today when I ran a search.

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When/if you do find one, you might want to be sitting when you see the price! I can remember near the end of the OM line in the late 90's, the prices ofthoselenses were outta site.
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Hi Greg,

Had a chance to do some more exploring on the web.

To your point, here is a used OM 100mm F2 only 749.00

http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20299253.html

Interestingly enough, there are 2 90mm macro F2 lenses listedon EBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Olympu...QQcmdZViewItem

The second is being sold in Great Britain for 1490.00US

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Old Jul 15, 2008, 5:47 AM   #28
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is it possible to get a 'better' lens than a OM 90 f2 for $200 or less? looks like it, in the form of a tokina atx 90/vivitar series 1 90.

http://www.photodo.com/product_189_p4.html- OM 90 - 4.2 mtf outstanding

http://www.photodo.com/product_486_p4.html- tokina 90 - 4.6 mtf optical treasure

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"The MTF ratings are based on Photodo's system of converting the actual MTF values into a number from 0 to 5.0. According to them, any lens with a rating of 3.5 or higher should be considered very good, 4.0 outstanding, and anything above 4.5 to be an optical treasure. Their numbering system was set up so that the highest rating any lens can get is 4.8."
as per - http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/bes...lensbrand.html

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Hi G,

B&H Photo continues to offer a used, but in good shape, Vivitar Series1 90mm F2.5 lens @ $149.00US.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Series_1.html

Kinda surprised that this hasn't been scoffed up based on your last post regarding this fine lens.



Based on the pricing I've seen for both the OM 100mmF2 and OM 90mmF2, that 85mm F1.8Zeiss of yours is looking better and better all the time.

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hi zig, that vivitar's a good deal. still waiting for ss to weigh in on his. btw, the zeiss zf 85 is 1.4,& not to be confused with older zeiss lenses. but the zf 100 macro might be the way to go. it was'nt available when i got my 85. so many lenses, so little money
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