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Old Mar 19, 2013, 12:14 PM   #1
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Is $415.00 too much money to pay for an E1 with 6400 clicks on it and in excellent condition? Have no idea what they sold new for. I'm wondering if it is worth the investment in a camera that old but I have seen pics on this forum from people with E1's and they look pretty darn good to me.
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If you look at B&H - they have several used E-1s for sale. One rated an 8+ for $225. Adorama has a similar (E+ in their rating) version for $200. So, it seems whoever is trying to sell the E-1 is trying to get about double market value. If you want to pick one up, you might want to look at the ones for sale at B&H / Adorama.
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I've been looked for a bargain as well John but I'm set on the E3 or E30. Better, more improved camera than the E1. In my opinion that is.
$415 seems high to me.
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Yes, I see that now. There were a couple of E3's that went on Ebay for around 450.00. There are a couple of E30s on there now also.
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Hi James: I like the bigger Oly cameras like the E-3 that I use. But you have to remember that other than your 35mm macro lens, all of your current lens are m4/3. While the big 4/3 lens can work on m4/3 cameras with adapters, the reverse is not true. You can not use your m4/3 lens on the big 4/3 cameras. So you may be looking at a rather big investment in lens to go with any 4/3 camera body that you decide to buy.
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Hi James

A few things about the E1 and the E3 if your interested in getting one or the other as I've still got both and use them. The E3 more than the E1.

1. Size and weight - The e1 and E3 are the essentially the same size:

E3: 142 x 116 x 75 mm (5.6 x 4.6 x 2.9 in) / 800lb (no battery)
E1: 141 x 104 x 81 mm (5.6 x 4.1 x 3.2 in) / 660lb (no battery)

The weight difference between the two surprised me as I'd always thought the E3 was just a wee bit heavier but not by much.

2. OVF - The E1's got a nice OVF but its not as nice as the E3's. Once you use the E3's the E1's OVF looks small.

3. AF - I can only comment on my own personal experience between the two. E1's slower but definitely more accurate and reliable - I have very few E1 pics with any of the AF issues I have had with the E3's. The E3's AF is way more advanced than the E1 and your not limited to the 3 AF points.

3. IS - Now I was always able to get pretty slow shutter speeds with the E1 + 14-54 down to 1/15s and get a fairly sharp image - partly technique and the E1's ergonomics. The E3 with IS lets you go even slower than that but I've not had much use for it , but its definitely useful and a win for the E3 esp if your using the slower glass.

4. Ergonomics - They are both very good, although I think the grip on the E3 is better and more comfortable than the E1. Buttons and dials etc, E1's pretty perfect, everything is just there at your fingers but the E3's pretty close as well. The E3 is better when your handling the bigger lenses - with my 35-100 the setup is better balanced and although I wish they had kept the lens mount position like the E1, that little shift to the right allows you to hold the camera and lens for say previewing images easier and for longer.

5. LCD - no contest here. E3 bigger better and it tilts.

6. Weather sealing - they're both very good and both my E1 and E3 have been out in some hefty downpours. Now I've lost the caps that cover the flash contacts on both and never had an issue with the camera not working after being out in the wet.

7. Sensors and Colour - There is something special about the files from the E1.. just a little richer and deeper, than you see with say the E3 although the E3's not that far behind. At higher ISOs - the E3 will band but the E1's sensor does not but you can use the E3 up to ISO 1200 without worry 3200 when you need to but expect to see banding.

8. Resolution - E3 has it over the E1 esp if your shooting and then need to crop. The jump from 5MP to 10MP I didn't think would be too big but its definitely worth having that extra res. Here's an example (apologies for the large pics) and I'm not sure whether you could place the OM in the same league as the SHG but its doing a pretty fine job if you ask me (esp for the 50 I got mine for). Those are some rather good 5MP in the E1 and when you slap on a SHG, theres a definite jump in quality and the same applies to the E3.

E1 + 135mm OM F3.5 Zukio



2. E3 + 35-100f2



9. RAW files - the E1 RAW files are uncompressed where as the E3's get compressed in camera so you get more shots onto your card and save diskspace.

10. AF lamp - E1 wins this. For low light the E1's AF is damn handy. Why Oly thought of removing it for the E3/5/30 is beyond me.

11. WB - E1 wins this - its always been consistent where as my E3's not so.

12. Build quality - About the same- mag alloy cameras are the only one that I will buy. I've dropped the E1 with the 14-54 attached lens first and both survived without any damage. The E1's got a wee tiny nick on the prism hump. "Made in Japan" trumps "Made in China"

13. Shutter - the E1 wins this.. its pretty close to silent. The E3's not so.

14. Live View - E3 gets this. E1 nil point.

15. Pop up flash - E3 wins.. its handy to have although I never missed it on my E1.

16. Battery grip - the E1 grip is better than the one for the E3. My E3's grips been used just once and its poor ergonomics let it down and makes the E3 way too big. That's not the case for the E1.

17. Both will give you approx 500 shots on a fully charged battery - the E1 comes with the BCM-1 which does a rapid charge up.

18. Style - E1 has a classic look to it. Its unique with the lens mount far to the left where as the E3 kind of looks sort of like the Canikons/Sony's etc.

For the price if your looking at 300-400, I'd get the E3 over the E1 its just got that much more to it.

Hope that helps

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Hi James

A few things about the E1 and the E3 if your interested in getting one or the other as I've still got both and use them. The E3 more than the E1.

1. Size and weight - The e1 and E3 are the essentially the same size:

E3: 142 x 116 x 75 mm (5.6 x 4.6 x 2.9 in) / 800lb (no battery)
E1: 141 x 104 x 81 mm (5.6 x 4.1 x 3.2 in) / 660lb (no battery)
I was trying to figure out why I never needed a car engine hoist to carry around my E3 or E5. Then I realized Harj meant grams not pounds. Lord knows what the weight would be if you added a car battery...

All kidding aside, that's an excellent and thoughtful comparison, Harj.

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If you look at B&H - they have several used E-1s for sale. One rated an 8+ for $225. Adorama has a similar (E+ in their rating) version for $200. So, it seems whoever is trying to sell the E-1 is trying to get about double market value. If you want to pick one up, you might want to look at the ones for sale at B&H / Adorama.
Another place to keep an eye out is the Buy & Sell forum at fourthirdsphoto.com, although it's been rather quiet lately - I guess everyone who was jumping away from Oly in that forum has done so.

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FYI,

There is also one E-1 for $189 at K&H (http://www.keh.com/camera/Olympus-Di...990805630?r=FE). This one is at EX+

as for the E3, anything between $349 to $429...

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Thanks for the nice comparison Harj. The contrast is noticeably better in the E1 photo providing these are OOC pics.
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Thanks Folob. The E-1 is tempting at 189.00 in EX+ condition but for the same price I could bump up to a E-520 in EX+ with 10MP. I wonder how much of an IQ difference there would be between the two.
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There is also one E-1 for $189 at K&H (http://www.keh.com/camera/Olympus-Di...990805630?r=FE). This one is at EX+

as for the E3, anything between $349 to $429...

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