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Old Jul 3, 2013, 9:13 AM   #1
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From JapanToday.com:

TOKYO (AFP) A Japanese court on Wednesday handed suspended sentences to three former Olympus executives accused of engineering a massive accounting fraud at the camera and medical equipment maker.

Prosecutors had asked that sacked company president Tsuyoshi Kikukawa be jailed for five years and lesser terms given to ex-vice president Hisashi Mori and auditor Hideo Yamada.

The sentences from the Tokyo District Court, ranging from three-years for Kikukawa and Yamada to two-and-a-half years for Mori, carry no immediate jail time.


You can read the rest here. Be sure to read the comments, to get a feel for how Japanese citizens view their Court system.

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I really don't know why this would be deemed worse than the OJ or Casey Anthony murder trials in this country. Or similar cases throughout Europe. Bad but hardly shocking. Unless you're an Oly owner.
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I really don't know why this would be deemed worse than the OJ or Casey Anthony murder trials in this country. Or similar cases throughout Europe. Bad but hardly shocking. Unless you're an Oly owner.
I understand what you're saying but the perps in the Oly case in Japan weren't freed by a jury, they were freed by the judges, whose lack of accountability apparently is common there. The two cases you cite were decided by respective juries, and OJ was found not guilt simply because that jury wanted to teach the bigoted LA Police Force a lesson. Which sadly has not made a difference even to this day. To me they're different.

What's equally outrageous in the US is the almost complete lack of prosecution of any of the senior managers in any of the too-large-to-fail banks, who caused a global recession. As a Buddhist I'm opposed to capital punishment but in their case I could be persuaded otherwise, considering the enormous amount of human misery they caused.

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I understand what you're saying but the perps in the Oly case in Japan weren't freed by a jury, they were freed by the judges, whose lack of accountability apparently is common there. The two cases you cite were decided by respective juries, and OJ was found not guilt simply because that jury wanted to teach the bigoted LA Police Force a lesson. Which sadly has not made a difference even to this day. To me they're different.

What's equally outrageous in the US is the almost complete lack of prosecution of any of the senior managers in any of the too-large-to-fail banks, who caused a global recession. As a Buddhist I'm opposed to capital punishment but in their case I could be persuaded otherwise, considering the enormous amount of human misery they caused.

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True that. Not one banker was ever indicted. Working in Real Estate lets me see every day the lives that they ruined. I see the anger when I go in a "Bank Owned Home" and witness the sinks, toilets and tubs smashed. Holes in the sheetrock just out of blind, helpless rage.

Then I have to negotiate with these arrogant people to try and make a deal to save the family home.

Not going to change the world though, are we Ted...?
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Not going to change the world though, are we Ted...?
Of course we are, Ken. I have, some, in my own way. Haven't you helped some of those folks?

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G'day fellas

Injustices abound all around the world
What's nice is that "people like us" can see them and argue the case that injustice should not be allowed to prevail and become the norm. If we fail, then the world really will become an unpleasant place to live

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You guys are right again.....
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Guys

Not surprised by the turn of events in Japan but then again when you look at the banking crises from 2008, how many of the lead culprits at the mega casino banks in the West got thrown inside for their crimes ? These guys that paid themselves salaries of anything up to $450m/year and clauses in their contracts that meant no matter how badly things screwed up they would walk away with huge pay offs. The knock of effect of their fiddling dwarfs what the old geezers at Oly got up to although $1b is still a huge amount of money to loose and nearly destroy the company.

A fab film if you guys havent seen it is.. a must watch on the banks and what they were up to is InsideJob and theirs a wee trailer on youtube :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzrBurlJUNk

Its an eye opener of a movie and one of my fav parts is when the bankers are hauled in front of a congressional committee:

Congressman Rep Micheal Capuano - "You come to us today, stating that we won't do it again. Trust us. Well I have some members of my constituency that actually robbed some of your banks, and they say the same thing!"
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Love that quote. Ignoring what the law says, is it really a crime to rob a bank?

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There was a time in Japan when those execs would probably have suffered a worse fate than any jail time they might have been sentenced to, and that's losing face. Of course, they also believed the Emperor was a god. I'm guessing they've grown out of all that.

I have a hard enough time trying to comprehend the U.S. legal system in my own back yard at times. Japan is a world away, but I'd still take it over finding myself on trial in Mexico. There are far worse places than Japan.
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