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Old May 13, 2014, 10:44 AM   #1
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Default FF Olympus .. would you bite ?

43Rumours site has a post on a "potential" Full frame Oly with the following specs:

- 32 Megapixel Full Frame sensor (Sony made sensor)
- ISO 50-102,400
- 3 fps
- dual core newly developed Olympus processor
- No on sensor stabilization (!)
- USB 3.0

Its a rumour so take it with a pinch of salt.. but would anyone be interested in a FF Oly ?

http://www.43rumors.com/ft1-the-omd-...-mount-camera/
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Old May 13, 2014, 12:59 PM   #2
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Nope.
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Old May 14, 2014, 9:40 AM   #3
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Too late and prolly too expensive..!
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Old May 14, 2014, 3:28 PM   #4
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Guys..

Yeah .. possibly too late .. and again I think like Ken, its going to be expensive. Thom hogan makes some interesting comments .. esp that the bottom end of the market .. low end DLSR sales are going to possibly fall away to smart phones and the like.

I think the other manufacturers esp Pantax will go FF but Oly I'm not so sure.

Personally ... for me its the AF thats important .. next cam has to have good CAF.......
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FF would be nice if money were not object but seeing the results I get from my E-3 would change my mind about coughing up a lot of money.
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I don't think Oly will go FF, but if they find the way to make the lenses smaller and lighter than my heavy Nikon glass and improve AF speed/accuracy I'll jump in a heartbeat..!!
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Guys..

Yeah .. possibly too late .. and again I think like Ken, its going to be expensive. Thom hogan makes some interesting comments .. esp that the bottom end of the market .. low end DLSR sales are going to possibly fall away to smart phones and the like.

I think the other manufacturers esp Pantax will go FF but Oly I'm not so sure.

Personally ... for me its the AF thats important .. next cam has to have good CAF.......
maybe that works for Thom, but I dont see fones having anything like comparable performance available to them

to me it means 4/3rds should be gunning for price (compared to FF)
so cut down functionality ICL with EVF
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at the end of the day
what it depends upon is funding an entire lens system

to get the advantages of FF complete
keeping in mind this would be a bid for the professional market
you need not only primary lenses you cant do without
but fast glass at various focal lengths
how many years would that take to come online
given theyve got to 2015 to get sales back in order

I think even if they started last year
that would take 4-5 yrs on a fully concentrated effort, 2018 ?
its that gap...

if it were me, and it isnt
I would go to work on the weaknesses of mFT
Id be looking at a movie format, in 16x9, with multi format capability
I would be seeking top end video performance
and wide format stills on a bigger sensor

remember video neither knows nor cares about the size of the sensor

clip mFT and FT lenses that dont work with it to a smaller field format
just as Nikon does with its APSC on FF
and develop a lens suite for the wider format

if they were to go FF, they would be another also ran in what is becoming a heavily populated field. It is a truly troubled business to get involved with, and in some ways perhaps more beneficial to build a better mFT suite.

yes its a mess
in the words of one Hollywood actor about the mess its in
"if it aint, it will do till the real mess gets here"
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maybe that works for Thom, but I dont see fones having anything like comparable performance available to them

to me it means 4/3rds should be gunning for price (compared to FF)
so cut down functionality ICL with EVF
There have been several articles by Hogan. I certainly agree that for a lot of consumers, their intended purpose for taking photos is to share via social media. A smart phone allows them to do so. I know several people who have DSLRs and they never use them - they use a pocketable camera in some cases, cell phones in all cases.

There is another article - I think it was by Hogan (but might not be) - where the gist is that the future in ILC is mirrorless. The article is titled to make you think it's a discussion of aps-c vs. full frame. But it really comes down to that the future of ILCs will be mirrorless for the vast majority of ILCs. I believe that is true. Smaller, lighter, cheaper to produce and to maintain. I suspect in another decade the DSLR will be a niche camera.

For Oly, I can't see them making full frame. Now, you're talking about another lineup of lenses and trying to maintain two different product lines again. Exactly the opposite of their direction to get to one system. What will be interesting is if there is any type of merger or acquisition between Fuji/Panasonic/Oly (although I would think the agreement between Sony and Oly would prevent them from being involved). The 3 are small fish in a big pond - one that Canon and Nikon have ignored (and one that Sony marketing seems a bit too inept to take full control over). But, if things stay as they are now - I can't see Oly venturing down the full frame path and a whole new lineup of lenses.
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If there was a probability rating on that site of less than FT1, that's what it would have been given.

Absolutely, positively, not a chance on this earth that's ever happening.

Hogan's articles do a great job for why they're written.....promote his site and make him money.
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