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Old Dec 25, 2012, 6:25 PM   #11
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The 25mm would be closer to what you actually see in terms of magnification, almost unnoticeable. The 17mm will give you 34mm actual view. I guess it all depends on what you are going to shoot the majority of the time. If it's your kids and you want candid shots, then the 25mm is probably the way to go. If you like shooting scenery than the 25mm is probably not your best choice.
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Old Dec 27, 2012, 10:50 AM   #12
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Hi,

I also own an Olympus EPL-1 and have only the 14-42 f3.5-5.6 kit lens.

How much faster is the 25mm f1/4 summilux lens ?
Does this lens solve the problem with EPL-1 in low light ? (the problem that the kit lens can't focus)
Could you take photos of your children in dark rooms ?

Ps: i have 2 little children (2 and 5 years old)

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The 25mm is two fstops faster than the kit lens. That means shutter can go up w/o increasing ISO. I had the 25mm and still have the EPL1 and to be honest, the difference in AF speed between the 25mm and the kit lens although it exists, it's not that significant. Don't expect to take much better pictures of your kids in motion.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 8:45 AM   #13
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The G3 is also e very nice body and one can find some real good deals right now.
The G3 really does seem like the "sweet spot" for price vs. performance right now, doesn't it? I've seen it used for less than $250. Incredible considering it was one of the best bodies out there just a few months ago. Panasonic stuff just dropped like a stone when the new ones announced.
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Yes, the C3 is going for $250 at B&H. This is a great deal with touch screen, articulating LCD screen and eye level viewfinder. I am thinking about buying one.
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The 25mm is two fstops faster than the kit lens. That means shutter can go up w/o increasing ISO. I had the 25mm and still have the EPL1 and to be honest, the difference in AF speed between the 25mm and the kit lens although it exists, it's not that significant. Don't expect to take much better pictures of your kids in motion.
Hi Tullio,

do you mean the EPL1 is the bottleneck (or the Summilux lens is not the best) ?

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Mirrorless camera in general is slower than a DSLR and not quite suitable for fast moving subjects. The EPL1 which I owned is quite slow in saving a picture after I snap the shutter. It will be difficult to do multiple shots in succession because of the long recording time it takes.
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Hi Tullio,

do you mean the EPL1 is the bottleneck (or the Summilux lens is not the best) ?

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I believe Tullio is saying the E-PL1 is the bottleneck.

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Mirrorless camera in general is slower than a DSLR and not quite suitable for fast moving subjects. The EPL1 which I owned is quite slow in saving a picture after I snap the shutter. It will be difficult to do multiple shots in succession because of the long recording time it takes.
They've come along way since the E-PL1 and if you set it to shoot RAW only with a class 10 card I have no problem getting multi-shot per second sequences with locked focus. It takes some practice but I have found that using the small focus target box on my E-PL2 I can lock onto a bird and snap a 3-6 shot burst and pick the best out.

From what I have seen with the latest generation the AF gap between the DSLR and the OM-D EM-5 is negligible.
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Yes, the EPL1 is slow. It's a bit faster with some lenses like the Summilux or even the Lumix 14-45mm (G1 kit lens) but still, it's AF performance is way slower than the new m4/3 generation of cameras.
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I believe Tullio is saying the E-PL1 is the bottleneck.



They've come along way since the E-PL1 and if you set it to shoot RAW only with a class 10 card I have no problem getting multi-shot per second sequences with locked focus. It takes some practice but I have found that using the small focus target box on my E-PL2 I can lock onto a bird and snap a 3-6 shot burst and pick the best out.

From what I have seen with the latest generation the AF gap between the DSLR and the OM-D EM-5 is negligible.
It is a generation gap between the old and the new. The EPL1 being a first generation mirrorless camera is significantly slower than the new ones. I can't compare it with a newer generation Olympus or Panasonic products since I don't have one. While comparing the EPL1 to my Samsung NX100, I notice a severe shutter lag and lag in recording. It does not matter if I am using a Class 4 or Class 10 card. The Samsung NX100 have no such problem and can record faster even with an old Class 4 card. What bugs me the most about the EPL1 is the blackout of the screen while the picture is being saved.

I don't doubt the mirrorless technology will catch up to the DSLR one day, but we are not there yet. In a short 3 years time, the mirrorless technology has advanced by leap and bounds. I can see difference in the EPL1 comparing to the newer cameras.

My friend has a Sony NEX-5N. It is a very fast camera, he can press on the shutter and snap 10 shots in a row without any problem. He still has problem following a flying object like a bird.

Anyway, I am upgrading my EPL1. I just ordered a Panasonic G3 from B&H.

Thanks, Tullio, on the advice on flash applications on the Panasonic forum.
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actually it is the 3 gen micro 4/3 form olympus, is you want to take slow af, look at the ep1 and the ep2.
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