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Old Dec 29, 2013, 10:06 AM   #1
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Hello,
I dutifully asked in the "What Camera should I buy" area. I have researched and read every review I can find and settled on the Olympus EPL3. Its in my budget, small enough for me to carry with me, has the features I need, and room for me to learn and grow.
However I was wondering as I can not find it anywhere. Does the Olympus Pen EPL3 have Partial color modes? I liked that feature in my last camera. Is it something I can do in post? Also what's up with video stopping and restarting when a picture is taken. Is this something firmware may fix at some point? I photograph and video an armature dance troupe for their own personal review to correct choreography (doesn't have to be professional quality). It would be nice to be able to use the one camera but the stop/restart would prevent that.
Any advice for a new Oly m4/3 owner?

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Hi avic. And welcome. I'm not familiar with that camera but Lightroom (and I suspect other editors) has something that I believe does what you're after. In LR it's called "Bleach Bypass" and it effectively washes out the color. Interestingly, an image to which I applied Bleach Bypass became a family favorite. The stop/restart video while clicking the shutter may be something that can be changed in settings. I've heard of such a thing. Because video is such high quality today you can pull a single frame as an image. It's kinda like super burst mode. Let us know what you find out.
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Hi avic, and welcome!

The E-PL3 has been replaced by the E-PL5 so it probably is starting to disappear from most all dealers shelves.
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Hi chiPersei and Greg
Yes the Epl3 has been replaced by the Epl5 so I got a great deal at $199 with kit lens (IMO). It will be my first step away from Point and Shoot. Im no where near even an amateur photographer. But I really want to learn how to go beyond point and click I am hoping that I will learn a lot with my new camera.
I am blown away by the photography posted here. When still in high school I had the opportunity to attend a magnet school that offered many more electives compared to the rural high school in my area. One class they offered was photography and I was looking forward to it the most. Unfortunately my family moved and I never got to go to the magnet school or take a photography class. I am just now revisiting that passion...20 years later.
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That is a pretty darn good price.
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That is a pretty darn good price.
Hi Avic. As Greg said, you did get an excellent price and best of luck as you start to learn the ins and outs of your new camera. You may find it interesting to read some reviews to help acquaint yourself with the many features of your camera.

Here are a couple:
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ol...L3/index.shtml

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/olympus/e-pl3-review

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Hi chiPersei and Greg
Yes the Epl3 has been replaced by the Epl5 so I got a great deal at $199 with kit lens (IMO). It will be my first step away from Point and Shoot. Im no where near even an amateur photographer. But I really want to learn how to go beyond point and click I am hoping that I will learn a lot with my new camera.
I am blown away by the photography posted here. When still in high school I had the opportunity to attend a magnet school that offered many more electives compared to the rural high school in my area. One class they offered was photography and I was looking forward to it the most. Unfortunately my family moved and I never got to go to the magnet school or take a photography class. I am just now revisiting that passion...20 years later.
Yeah, that's a great price.

One fairly inexpensive way to learn more (at least it helped me) is to keep an eye out for an inexpensive manual focus lens from an old SLR camera. An adapter for most other formats will run about 20 bucks on top of that. Using it really forced me to pick up more on exposure, using aperture, etc. I also think it's good to try your hand at manual focus too, even if you don't use it with your "real" lens. Also it's fun.
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Hi and welcome to the family Avic!

You got a good deal ... I paid twice that for my E-PL2 2 years ago lol

As for the color question, you might find something in the scene modes that fits your need, however since scene modes only apply to JPEG output I would also shoot RAW. If you have a tool like Lightroom, After Shot Pro, Photoshop (paid) or UFRAW + GIMP, Olympus Viewer (free) or even the old Adobe Photoshop version 2 which is also now free you can process the RAW and produce your own JPEG with significantly more control. Doing things like stripping out the colors and adding back in color selectively is much easier in post processing.

On the video question; the reason it stops video to take the photo is because your video is shot at 1080i (1920 1080 pixels) with an electronic shutter, a still shot with your camera will be 4032 x 3024 pixels and will use the mechanical shutter (hence the clicking noise). Because of these differences in shutter method, pixels used, and aspect ratio the still shot is a separate function. I would recommend looking into the VLC media player which is free and supports high resolution (1920 x 1080 pixel) frame capture from multiple video formats, do a quick search on "extract frames from video using VLC" and you will find many tutorials. Another alternative since you said resolution is not hugely important is to just pause the video and take a screenshot using the print screen (Prnt Scrn) button and then open paint and ctrl-v to paste the image; alternately if on windows 7 you can use the snipping tool as well or find another tool like Snagit. You might find something like Snagit worth the effort as you will be able to not only screen shot but then notate the image easily pointing out things of interest or adding lines to indicate where a dancer's motion might be off.

So if that was TL;DR; just shoot video and take screen grabs from it, the resolution will be good enough for what you are doing.
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I went to download snagit and I got all kinds of warnings from McAffee and it was quarantined as a trojan so I'm not going there.
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Hi and welcome to the family Avic!

You got a good deal ... I paid twice that for my E-PL2 2 years ago lol

As for the color question, you might find something in the scene modes that fits your need, however since scene modes only apply to JPEG output I would also shoot RAW. If you have a tool like Lightroom, After Shot Pro, Photoshop (paid) or UFRAW + GIMP, Olympus Viewer (free) or even the old Adobe Photoshop version 2 which is also now free you can process the RAW and produce your own JPEG with significantly more control. Doing things like stripping out the colors and adding back in color selectively is much easier in post processing.

On the video question; the reason it stops video to take the photo is because your video is shot at 1080i (1920 1080 pixels) with an electronic shutter, a still shot with your camera will be 4032 x 3024 pixels and will use the mechanical shutter (hence the clicking noise). Because of these differences in shutter method, pixels used, and aspect ratio the still shot is a separate function. I would recommend looking into the VLC media player which is free and supports high resolution (1920 x 1080 pixel) frame capture from multiple video formats, do a quick search on "extract frames from video using VLC" and you will find many tutorials. Another alternative since you said resolution is not hugely important is to just pause the video and take a screenshot using the print screen (Prnt Scrn) button and then open paint and ctrl-v to paste the image; alternately if on windows 7 you can use the snipping tool as well or find another tool like Snagit. You might find something like Snagit worth the effort as you will be able to not only screen shot but then notate the image easily pointing out things of interest or adding lines to indicate where a dancer's motion might be off.

So if that was TL;DR; just shoot video and take screen grabs from it, the resolution will be good enough for what you are doing.
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I went to download snagit and I got all kinds of warnings from McAffee and it was quarantined as a trojan so I'm not going there.
that's odd - you downloaded from here, right?

http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.html

I've got the paid version for work, but I just downloaded the trail .exe and scanned it and I am getting no viruses ... maybe you downloaded it from one of them "freeware" sites?
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