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Old Sep 24, 2014, 11:52 PM   #1
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Default ......early mornings at the pond

With fall coming on fast I am watching the pond for color change and lighting. Early mornings are becoming interesting with the sun angle changing to the south.

I did these with the HDR1 setting on the E-M1 with the ZD 14-54.

Someplace I read that the HDR1 & HDR2 camera settings will allow EV range sets when the camera is updated to the new firmware version. I did not see this in the new manual however.

Anyway here are a couple of files shot with what I've got. HDR OOC with slight PP tweaking in ASPro 2.

Alan you are responsible yet for my getting involved with this HDR stuff so be honest, if you like good, if you don't like do remember I am an old man and some forms of honesty makes me cry, so maybe lie a bit then.





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Old Sep 25, 2014, 9:48 AM   #2
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When you say EV range sets, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I was just fiddling with the HDR mode. Not taking any images, just looking at the various options, and did not notice anything different from the prior firmware.

Your slight tweeks were good. The HDR images I've tried using the mode 1 don't come out looking nice and vibrant like these are.
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So you're creating the HDR in-camera and just tweaking the resulting JPG after? I haven't used that feature yet, just curious.

Anyhow, they look very natural. I've seen some extreme ones that DO look cool, but I'm more likely to want to use the natural ones myself (just for gaining some DR).
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I tried to use the HDR settings on the EM-1 ... and gave up. I like to use the "Bracketing" settings and I find them working better.

However, those images are quite good !!!
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When you say EV range sets, I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
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HDR1 simply exposes 4 images with EV I am assuming at +/- 2.0, there is no setting of EV parameters (1.0, 2.0, 3.0 etc).... except in manual mode the scene can be set same as single file. Then I believe the HDR1 will be 4-images off that man/mode setting..... I am not certain but it seems the starting point (man mode exposure) dictates the EV spread.

I will never use the HDR2 selection ... just too busy and too much need to know stuff

It may have been a DPReview comment (rumor) where I saw that the firmware 2 update would allow setting the EV params for HDR1.
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Yep, that is my MO for E-M1 HDR, it merges the 4-files into 1 which can be led into Photomatix if wanted or as I do with ASPro 2, I simply do PP editing for getting the look I want.
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If I were to use Photomatix for merging & filter editing I too would & have used exposure bracketing and when ASPro 2 is updated for HDR processing I will again give EX bracketing a go but I am just not a fan of 'hard' HDR finishing.

The HDR1 camera process followed by non-HDR PP editing gives me a look I can accept.
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here are the 1st 2 files above as they came from the camera HDR1, not pretty



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I think your images are excellent Bob and do show an increase in dynamic range. On the 3rd image it almost went too far and feels like a little more contrast would have been in order. It's a consideration with HDR that an image can be rendered flat.

I heard the v2 firmware institutes a 3EV separation between the frames which could help in that regard. Darker darks and whiter whites. That sounds like a laundry detergent commercial but you know what I mean.

I'm with folob on this though. I prefer doing my own bracketing using the 3F 2.0EV setting and raw files. It offers a greater amount of flexibility. Consider my teasel (thistle?) HDR as opposed to folobs barn images. The teasel has so little processing done to it you almost can't tell it was put together with multiple images. However the information is available to push it to the degree folob did with the barns. That offers a lot of room to play. The downside is the amounts of space the extra images require and the additional time to process. The main thing is to have fun with it.
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folob- when you say you like to do your own bracketing are you not using any one of the preset bracketing settings such as 3F 2.0EV, 5F 3.0EV, or 7F 2.0EV? Seems those are pretty handy. If you are using them, which setting do you use the most. If you are not using them, how many frames and at what EV are you using?
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Here's where I read HDR-1 and HDR-2 now have +/- 3.0EV.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news...eica-updates-s
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I knew I had seen it mentioned.
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Yes, that is indeed possible. You can go even more extreme by simply setting your own initial exposure in manual mode and let the camera do it's thing from there in either HDR mode.
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