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Old Nov 21, 2014, 10:43 PM   #11
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Yeah, people love and swear by the EP5 but I don't get it myself. If I pay a thousand dollars or whatever for a camera it better come with a built-in eyehole.
I think most EP5's were sold as a kit with the VF-4 and 17mm f1.8, upon release this was a $1500 kit. I believe you can get it now for $1200. Considering an E-M10 plus a 17mm f1.8 will set you back around $1,050-1,100 and that doesn't include the 5-axis stabilization or the 1/8000 shutter speed of the EP5 nor the higher resolution of the VF4, the EP5 kit isn't really a bad deal. You get the same features in terms of IBIS, shutter and EVF resolution as the EM1 but in a rangefinder package. To some this is worth every penny, especially to those who want to shoot with the 12/17/25/45/75 prime package Olympus has provided, it becomes a real street shooter's camera with the super fast shutter.

The E-M5 replacement is rumored to be announced this February, so no real surprise with the $599 body only price ($400 off original MSRP) and the rumored end to production. The new E-M5 will likely have a better EVF, 4k video, WiFi, and some sort of hybrid PDAF/CDAF system. I have a gut feeling it will not be backwards compatible with the 4/3 lenses since they require PDAF-only mode, but will instead use a hybrid system that is full time PDAF/CDAF to achieve faster focus with better tracking like we see in the Sony A6000.

The E-PM line is dead though, which is a shame. I just picked up an E-PM2 body with 6000 shutter actuations for around $150 to use as a second camera to my E-M1. While it does have an all plasticy-chintzy feel it is a nice little package and quite usable once you accept the touch screen, which is something not too hard for us smartphone people. I think it was just priced too high on release to sell like they hoped. The problem is when a little more $$ will buy you something with a tilting touch screen and more solid construction like the E-PL5 it is a hard sell for the E-PM2. Honestly if I was only going to use one camera the E-PM2 would be completely ruled out, but as a second small, stealth, always with me camera the E-PM2 is perfect. Looking at how well the GM1 is doing one wonders if the E-PM line failed not because it was a bad idea to have a really small camera but because they made it to chintzy in the process.

I'm thinking we may still see a need for an P-L and a E-P line as there is room for both, I'm not sure I agree that the E-P should adopt a GX7-like EVF but I am sure it would go a long way to differentiate the E-P and make a lot of people happy, so we may well see one. On the other hand I think the GX7 has a bit of a sticker shock associated to it that makes some look elsewhere. Marketing wise it is somewhat shrewd to sell an E-P at a lower price point, full well knowing that people will end up coming back to buy an external EVF even when it equals a higher overall price than the GX7. It's the classic foot in the door approach, get them to buy the camera body over a higher priced GX7 only to realize more profit when you sell them an EVF. I know when I bought my E-PL2 I saw it as cheaper than the GH series DSLR like Panasonics that came with an EVF, only to find myself shelling out $175 for a VF-2 within two months of buying the E-PL2... lol they got us figured out for sure

Anyways just my late night musings.
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Old Nov 22, 2014, 8:02 PM   #12
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So, I picked up the kit ramcewan talks about last year. There was a sale at the time, and I think it ended up around 1200-1300 for the VF-4 and the 17mm 1.8 along with the body. My progression of cameras came from an Olympus PnS to the EPL-1 then finally to the EP5. I didn't have a view finder with the EPL-1 but as promised by you guys when I bought the EP5 with the VF-4, I like it a lot. The next body, I will probably get a built in view finder. At least from my viewpoint the progression from EPL -> EP -> OM seems natural. I don't know if that is what Olympus is aiming for or if they're just throwing stuff out to see what sticks, and is now in pare down mode. All in all, I haven't regretted my purchases, but like all other electronics, there's always something better, and next month will have something better yet.
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So, I picked up the kit ramcewan talks about last year. There was a sale at the time, and I think it ended up around 1200-1300 for the VF-4 and the 17mm 1.8 along with the body. My progression of cameras came from an Olympus PnS to the EPL-1 then finally to the EP5. I didn't have a view finder with the EPL-1 but as promised by you guys when I bought the EP5 with the VF-4, I like it a lot. The next body, I will probably get a built in view finder. At least from my viewpoint the progression from EPL -> EP -> OM seems natural. I don't know if that is what Olympus is aiming for or if they're just throwing stuff out to see what sticks, and is now in pare down mode. All in all, I haven't regretted my purchases, but like all other electronics, there's always something better, and next month will have something better yet.
Yeah it's a great camera, in some ways better than the OMs . . . it's just that "for me" I had the VF on my EPL2 all the time--so instead of making the total package more convenient it actually made it bulkier.
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