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Old Feb 11, 2004, 11:31 AM   #11
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I know it doesn't sound good. Like you said, wait for the reviews before you make a judgement.

Actually, the sensor size does directly affect the weight...maybe not the weight of the CCD but of the lens required to get a certain focal length/aperture. It gets progressively more difficult to design a sharp, fast light lens as the sensor size increases. Wouldn't you agree there? How much would a 10X zoom digicam with the same lens aperture range as these C-788 specs with a 4/3 sensor weigh?
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Old Feb 11, 2004, 12:00 PM   #12
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You're right, the optimal sensor size is a function of the focal length and the depth of the camera body. That's why dSLR's with 4/3 type and larger sensors are substantially deeper and just plain larger than consumer digicams, even long-zoom models like the C-750, which has a pretty compact body minus the protruding lens.

Oly could have used a 2/3 type, like the Sony and Canon, which would have probably yielded a 28-280mm. Producing that equivalent focal length with a 4/3 type would have required a larger, heavier camera, with larger lens elements.

Oly should have opted for the 2/3 type - more useable wide angle, still quite a long telephoto, in the same compact body.

I would heve preferred a lower noise, 5 or even 6Mp 2/3, but Oly is not going to stand on the sidelines and watch consumers flock towards the Sony and Canon 8Mp models. I'm interested to read reviews and see sample pics of the new Pro S1 - see how it compares to the Sony 828, which appears to be a pretty mediocre camera for $900+.
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Old Feb 11, 2004, 12:20 PM   #13
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New Olympus models:

D-395 Zoom
D-540 Zoom
D-575 Zoom
D-580 Zoom
Stylus 410
Stylus 510
C-60 (6 MP compact)
C-765 Ultra Zoom
C-770 Ultra Zoom
C-788 Ultra Zoom (8 MP) 1/1.8
C-8080 Wide Zoom (8 MP) 1/1.8
Olympus 88 Pro (8 MP) 2/3
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Old Feb 11, 2004, 12:25 PM   #14
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Is the 88PR a dSLR? OIs Oly still planning to introduce a less-expensive version of the E-1 (ostensibly to compete w/ the 300d and Nikon D70)?
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Old Feb 11, 2004, 12:44 PM   #16
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Is the 88PR a dSLR? OIs Oly still planning to introduce a less-expensive version of the E-1 (ostensibly to compete w/ the 300d and Nikon D70)?
No. It is a high end prosumer to compete with the Canon Pro1, Minolta A2 and Nikon 8700. I have heard nothing about the E series yet.
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Old Feb 11, 2004, 1:25 PM   #17
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Actually the Sony DSC-T1 uses a 1/2.7 sensor @ 5 megapixels. This camera does an excellent job. 8 MP for a 1/1.8 sensor should have the same pixel density as these new Oly models.

TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING. I AM SURE THE MANUFACTURERS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THE OLD RULES WILL NOT ALWAYS APPLY!
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Old Feb 11, 2004, 2:49 PM   #18
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Actually, it's a 1/2.4. And yes, it does a good job in bright light - but what about ISO 400?

Yes, they know exactly what they are doing - taking advantage of consumers who automatically assume that more Mp = better image quality - which it does not. And I'm not aware of any great new advances in bulk silicon technology that dramatically reduces dark current. Finally, while I haven't looked at the T1, I have spent an afternoon with the 828 - and image noise was bad at ISO 200 (worse than at 400 on my Oly C750) and just plain terrible at ISO 400.
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Old Feb 12, 2004, 9:20 AM   #19
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Default Re: UPDATE: NEW OLY MODELS

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New Olympus models:

D-395 Zoom
D-540 Zoom
D-575 Zoom
D-580 Zoom
Stylus 410
Stylus 510
C-60 (6 MP compact)
C-765 Ultra Zoom
C-770 Ultra Zoom
C-788 Ultra Zoom (8 MP) 1/1.8
C-8080 Wide Zoom (8 MP) 1/1.8
Olympus 88 Pro (8 MP) 2/3

As far as Im aware the 8080 is also 2/3 instead of 1/1.8


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Old Feb 19, 2004, 1:54 PM   #20
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8080 Specs from Olympus' Website

http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...oduct=961&fl=4

I think i'll be getting one myself when it comes out.
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