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lokosofia Oct 25, 2005 9:15 PM

Hello,

I posted this question in the Lenses forum, but since many folks here use it with their FZs, I wanted to ask the same question here.

I am looking to buy Oly wide/tele lens, but I am a bit confused. On Ebay there are few different model with the same factor. For example, there are TCON14, TCON14D, TCON14B, etcor TCON17, TCON17F, TCON17E, etc. The same with .8 and .7 WCONs.

How can I tell which are better :?:?:??

Thank you.

squirl033 Oct 25, 2005 10:05 PM

the suffixdenotesthe mounting size/style, and makes no difference in the optical performance or quality. the TCON-17 is nominally 1.7x, and the TCON-14B is 1.45x, but you really won't notice much difference in the results. the TCON-14B is a good deal bigger andheavier, and is more expensive than the TCON-17, but it's also a bit sharper and less prone to chromatic aberration. for an FZ10/15/20, you'll probably be using an adapter with 62mm threads, sothe simplest solution is aTCON-14B teleconverter, which will screw directly onto your adapter. the -14D and -14E will not fit. you could also use a TCON-17 as well, but you'd need a 62-55mm stepdown ring. don't use the -17F or -17E.

i have a TCON-14B, and can attest that it works very well, and although it's heavy and bulky, it produces very good results. a friend has the TCON-17 for her FZ1, and it works well too, but produces more purple fringing under conditions of extreme contrast. i cannot offer an opinion on the WCON wide-angle adapters, as i don't own one, but there are a number of folks here who do, and can provide tips on that series if you so desire. i do believe the onlywide-anglelens that will fit is the WCON07, and that will require a 62-55mm stepdown ring.

tcook Oct 25, 2005 10:05 PM



Troy Carter Oct 26, 2005 12:58 AM

I have a wcon 08 which has 55mm rear threads as well and works perfectly with my FZ1 & 3. You'll need a step down ring for use with the 10/15/20 but since I have not tried it I don't know if the wcon 08 will work perfectly on them or not.

LoveLife Oct 26, 2005 1:03 AM

squirl033 wrote:
Quote:

the suffixdenotesthe mounting size/style, and makes no difference in the optical performance or quality. the TCON-17 is nominally 1.7x, and the TCON-14B is 1.45x, but you really won't notice much difference in the results. the TCON-14B is a good deal bigger andheavier, and is more expensive than the TCON-17, but it's also a bit sharper and less prone to chromatic aberration. for an FZ10/15/20, you'll probably be using an adapter with 62mm threads, sothe simplest solution is aTCON-14B teleconverter, which will screw directly onto your adapter. the -14D and -14E will not fit. you could also use a TCON-17 as well, but you'd need a 62-55mm stepdown ring. don't use the -17F or -17E.

i have a TCON-14B, and can attest that it works very well, and although it's heavy and bulky, it produces very good results. a friend has the TCON-17 for her FZ1, and it works well too, but produces more purple fringing under conditions of extreme contrast. i cannot offer an opinion on the WCON wide-angle adapters, as i don't own one, but there are a number of folks here who do, and can provide tips on that series if you so desire. i do believe the onlywide-anglelens that will fit is the WCON07, and that will require a 62-55mm stepdown ring.

On the FZ10,15 and 20:

TCON14B 62mm mount TCON17 55mm mount.

Wcon08B = 62mm mount WCON08E= 55mm mount Wcon07 =55mm mount.

Step rings add 4mm displacement and degrade lens performance. There is an adapter that has special rings that do not degrade performance.

genece Oct 26, 2005 7:30 AM

I only want to add that usually the letter at the end indicate the mount used as others said ..but that is not the case with the Tcon 14D, that is a much smaller lens and is no where near the quality of the 14B...Do not ask how I know..OK ...some shady Ebayer got me for 80 bucks for a lens worth 20.

lokosofia Oct 26, 2005 12:07 PM

Wow,

Thanks for the info. Now I know what to look for, phew :D

lokosofia Oct 26, 2005 12:43 PM

Hmm,

Now I have other questions :?:?. After checking the prices on Ebay, it seems that WCON08E are half the price of WCON08B or 08D. Is there such a big difference in their quality? Also, how WCON07 compares to WCON08B ?

Thanks again.

genece Oct 26, 2005 1:39 PM

Be aware that lots of people on Ebay sell refurbished or refilled lens as new.

All those styles of 08's are basicly $135.00 (New)with the E being 5 dollars more because it comes with a step ring. and keep in mind you can not use a WconD because it is a bayonet mount.

It is the same quality as the 07 but the 08 is not quite as wide

B 62mm
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search


e55mm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search


d bayonet
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search





Wcon 07C is also a bayonet mount

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search



lokosofia Oct 26, 2005 2:32 PM

Well,

I was looking at the Oly acutions, and they claim the lenses are BRAND NEW. If the 08E quality is the same as 08B, prob I'll go for it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OLYMPUS-WCON-08E...QQcmdZViewItem

:|

genece Oct 26, 2005 3:01 PM

That is a good place to get lenses , I have got several from them.

And the quality of the B and E are identical

LoveLife Oct 26, 2005 4:13 PM

lokosofia wrote:
Quote:

Well,

I was looking at the Oly acutions, and they claim the lenses are BRAND NEW. If the 08E quality is the same as 08B, prob I'll go for it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OLYMPUS-WCON-08E...QQcmdZViewItem

:|
I do not have a clue what camera this is for and that makes a big difference.

If these products are brand new Olympus is creating a terrible marketing sin. Selling against it's dealership. They are in financial difficulty and that may account for the unorthodox approach.

These are on open auction items and there is no buy it now price. You will be charged sales tax. Good luck.

;)

genece Oct 27, 2005 8:55 AM

Easy lovelife ..I can understand your outlook but I have bought several lenses from olympus aution and emporium and some point and shoot cameras for grandkids its all on theup and up. Usually new stuff ...scuffed packaging.

Some of the cameras are refurbished, but appear new.


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