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msantos Nov 22, 2005 1:49 AM

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I took this shoot 20 min ago. I wanted to test the nigth shoots with my FZ-30.

I see no any disturbing noise (I mean, just the normal of course).

ISO-80, f8, 8sec, tripod, no PS, spot metering

KENNETHD Nov 22, 2005 2:04 AM

Yup, pretty much the same experience I've had. Good post, best regards,


squirl033 Nov 22, 2005 2:25 AM

if you're used to the noise levelfrom the FZ10/15/20, the FZ30 will not be any worse. itjust isn'tany better, either. i think a lot of folks were hoping the '30 would be significantly less noisy than the 'previous FZ's, and were a bit disappointed that it isn't. noise can be a bother even in bright daylight shots, but on the other hand, any of the FZ's can produce some very nice low-light shots, if you use them right - which you obviouslydid in this shot!

fortunately, most of us are probably more attuned to noise than the average viewer, because we've heard so much about how "noisy" the FZ's are, even though they're no worse, and often better, than the models they compete with. and we look more critically atour photos than most would do, to make sure we avoid or reduce the noisethat is there to a bare minimum. in reality, though, most of the noise we complain about would scarcely be noticed in a print, and certainly not by someone who wasn't looking for it. and if we think it might be a problem, we have things like PictureCooler or Neat Image to help us make those prints look night unto perfect.

in short, the FZ's "noise problem" really isn't a problem, any more than it would be with any other camera of its type, and those who complain about the noise are doing so mostly because with the FZ's, there's bloody little else to complain about!

genece Nov 22, 2005 9:14 AM

Nice photo and I think you have it figured out squirl.

Nightwing Nov 22, 2005 12:56 PM

Nice picture!!! Thats how I leard to shot night shots. low ISO, tripod and open up the shutter. Every book and hint state the same system you used for that shot. High ISO is a hail mary play. And should not be the norm.

seemolf Nov 22, 2005 4:55 PM

Yup, the tripod is an excellent noise killer.
I have a micro tripod (mosquito) or a mini tripod with me all the time.
- excellent shot -

tiger98 Nov 24, 2005 1:47 PM

Nice shot Msantos! Looks like all the detail is there. Jim

gene_mtl Nov 28, 2005 11:37 PM

As a new user of the FZ30, was wondereing why the F8? Because of DOF? Would a larger aperture also have worked with a slower shutter speed?

Great picture.:cool:

msantos Nov 28, 2005 11:48 PM

gene_mtl escribió:

As a new user of the FZ30, was wondereing why the F8? Because of DOF? Would a larger aperture also have worked with a slower shutter speed?

There were basically two reasons:
  • To disapear some pedestrians crossing the bridge :G[/*]
  • To get the "star" effect on the spot ligths.
You can use for example f2.8 and a faster shutter speed, but the spot ligths will become circles instead of stars.

boyzo Nov 29, 2005 5:35 PM

Nice shot Msantos you seem to like the FZ30, the bridge shows wounderful stone work and the arch Keystone work is beautiful.

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