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Old Jul 19, 2006, 4:29 AM   #1
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Spotted the announcemnet at dpreview - will check out the specs in a wee bit:

  • Ten megapixel 1/1.8" CCD[/*]
  • 16:9 movie record mode (848 x 480 pixels)[/*]
  • TIFF file format dropped (RAW remains) [/*]
  • Venus Engine III image processor [/*]
  • Scene modes adjusted[/*]
  • Sensitivity up to ISO 1600 at full size, ISO 3200 (upsampled)[/*]
  • Slower continuous shooting (from 3 to 2 fps, max images from 7 to 5 in standard)[/*]
  • Lower resolution LCD monitor (from 230,000 to 207,000 pixels)[/*]
  • Support for SDHC cards (SD greater than 2 GB)[/*]
  • 'SilkyPix Developer Studio' for RAW conversion [/*]
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 4:43 AM   #2
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All the specs are published:


Good news: some noise in the example pictures (at ISO100).

So the venus III does not destroy all details.

- manual aperture rail

- memory for settings

- max. 60 seconds exposure

- TTL flash

Some specs look quite interesting.

The sample pictures are terrible again, they will not help to sell this camera ;-)

.. forgot one thing 3200 iso, 10 MP oh wow!

.. IS watching for any kind of movement, sorry but simply changes ISO settings

(There must be kids playing in the development department! ..and every now and then a marketing specialist shouts to them: "folks, we need higher numbers not increased quality"..)

So stay with the FZ30, just as many stayed with the FZ5 ...

.. and look at the price: starting with 679,- euros!

So there is a big gap between the FZs and the L1. The other brands will fill this gap, they have plenty of time (one year). Thosepeople needing more IQ and contrast range (!) now, will leave Panasonic. Others, mainly new customers, will like the slightly improved FZ30V2 (many features look like a firmware upgrade!).

I am sitting in front of a cup telling me: expect more! I have expected more improvements!


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Old Jul 19, 2006, 6:12 AM   #3
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Interesting how they've created a dedicated web page addressing specifically the 'noise' issue.

SD card provided is 32Mb (in effect same as before since resolution has now doubled) and supports the newly released 4-32GB cards.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 7:35 AM   #4
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They did some nice changes to the software of the camera.
And what is also nice: They have a brighter Display plus the ability to further increase the brightness by factor 1.4 by pressing the EVF/LCD button a little longer.
And the display can now be tilted down 180 degrees and not only roughly 130°.

Now there is a dial option for "CUSTOM" modes... can store 3 custom sets of settings.

You can now set the timezone for two places in your camere. LOL
And you can set your travel start day. It then stores an extra Tag to each image with a string like "1st day" "2nd day"

The multi-image preview has now a new view option: Calendar View. Interesting, but not too useful.

New Button "Function" placed right under the "Menu" Button.

The focus area can now be chosen out of the 9 focus fields manually if in 1-area focus-mode.

Now you can not only lock the AE, but also the focus, even in manual focus mode.

All those changes look like they could have easily been packed into a firmware update (except for the extra button and Venus Engine III maybe).
10 Megapixel are not needed, especially as they kept the sensorsize.

No update for me. Maybe for the people that do not already own another FZ and always wanted one.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 9:26 AM   #5
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Yeah, the fact that they have a special "noise issue" page speaks for itself.
Overall, it's disappointing to see they "stuffed" (as Phil says) more pixels and kept the size of the sensor.
Anyway, when the reviews come out, I'd be interested to see two comparison tests: 1. FZ50 8MP ISO400 image vs. FZ30 8MP ISO400 image and the image post processed with NoiseNinja or whatever to see just how similar the results are; I'm just curious as how similar these two images would look compared to each other(a.k.a. how good the Venus3 really is) and 2. FZ50 6MP ISO400, ISO800 & ISO1600 images vs. Fujifilm F30 6MP ISO400, ISO800 & ISO1600 images. :evil:

P.S. 680EUR starting price?!?! Are they mad?!? :lol:
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 9:38 AM   #6
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I noticed they used a 1.1/8' CCD in the FZ50 and a 1.1/65 in the LX2. Isn't CCD smaller in the FZ50 and why would theydo that?

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Old Jul 19, 2006, 11:24 AM   #7
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The sensor in the FZ50 I think is the same as the one in the FZ30 just 2MP's more. Best to wait and see what the reviews are goign to be like and print the mages out but I think I'll be going DSLR with the next cam which is a pitty as I was hoping that they would have gone for IQ over MP.




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Old Jul 19, 2006, 11:31 AM   #8
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im with you guys, why use the same small sensor thats noise prone at high megapixel counts, and jam more megapixels onto it to increase the problem. i dont care how good the versus III engine is, its a step back cramming more pixels onto an already crowded tiny sensor. i definately wont be going for this. they just boosted teh numbers of teh FZ30, to no increase in quality. it was released as a marketing idea rather than new technology. they think people want bigger numbers. i think people are happer with the numbers we have now and need increases in quality rather than size. this has been said countless times, you would think panasonic would listen. im sticking with my FZ7, and if they dont change their attidude of telling the people what they want rather than listening to them , they will not be my next choice of camera
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 11:54 AM   #9
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I would personally rather do my processing on my computer and have some control over what is done. The venus lll sometimes, over does it in my humble opinion. Is there an advantage that I don't understand, letting the Venus lll do it?


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Old Jul 19, 2006, 1:13 PM   #10
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I guess my FZ1 will remain my only Pany fora while longer. Disapointing but I'm not going to be able to change what they have decided on.

The kicker for me isn't only that it's still a small sensor with too many pixels but it's lost other stuff too. Like, 2fps now instead of 3fps and the non constant f2.8-3.7 lens. Maybe there are some fz20's still available???
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