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Old Feb 28, 2006, 1:15 AM   #21
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Sorry, but I don't think they have the same quality.

First of all, when you look at the clock, you can easily identify the purple color noise in FZ7, but not in FZ5.
In ISO400, FZ5 is still usable while FZ7 is totally a disaster.
Even at ISO200, FZ7 got a lot of color noise while FZ5's noise control is excellent.

I can pretty well understand Simon's concern on the noise issue.
I've seen thousands of pictures from FZ5,7,30.
In terms of picture quality
FZ5>FZ30>FZ7

FZ7 with visible noise even at ISO80 is a great disappointment.

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Below sample is 100% copy from DPREVIEW (no resize), look very clear FZ7 & FZ5 almost have a same quality. and Kodak P850 seem to be the worst.
Below sample taken from dpreview (Simon Joinson)
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Old Feb 28, 2006, 2:10 AM   #22
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Well I've decided that I am going to hang on until May as I believe that Sony are bringing out the H2 and H7.
Don't expect anything from those, already ISO400 of H2 is this "colourful"...
http://www.quesabesde.com/camdig/not..._H2_ISO400.jpg

Problem is that these convenient size ultrazooms with long tele require really small sensor, and then when marketing clowns cram too many megapixels to that even lowest ISOs are hard to keep noiseless.
But that really doesn't matter, common people are like sheeps in butcher's line and for them only thing mattering is that brochure has most exaggeration and PR BS.
Just remember Panasonic's touted "extra zoom", cropping of picture, it's equally much fraud as digital zoom, both bring exactly zero new details... and now Sony is also jumping to that bandwagon.


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Old Feb 28, 2006, 8:20 AM   #23
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And it goes on and on:
7 MP on a 1/2.5" CCD
10 MP on a 1/1.7" CCD

I don't think there's a huge amount of lenses using these overblown MP - with pics showing detail. High noise reduction adds even more insult to injury and makes no sense if you want to print out big. So there's no use for more MP if quality deteriorates.
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