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stevetracey Feb 9, 2006 2:01 AM

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It was a dull day until we had a couple of visitors.

FZ20.Overcast with some PP.

stevetracey Feb 9, 2006 2:02 AM

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Raghu Feb 9, 2006 2:29 AM

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Beautiful birds, Steve. I have tweaked the pics. Hope you wouldn't mind. (pl let me know if you would like me to remove these altered pics.)

Raghu Feb 9, 2006 2:30 AM

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and the other one..

ttkbear Feb 9, 2006 6:47 AM


I'd like to know what you did and howyou did it. It made quite a difference.


stevetracey Feb 9, 2006 7:30 AM

Thanks Raghu, thats so much better.

How did you do that? I have Photoshop elements 4 & PhotoshopCS2.

Was it donewithany of these ?


matt_xyz Feb 9, 2006 9:57 AM

That is impressive'tweaking' Raghu!

I agree with the others - please share your secrets!

Good shots in the first place, though Steve. You did better than my one and only attempt to shoot one of these woodpeckers. And I've never even seen a nuthatch.


Raghu Feb 9, 2006 10:10 AM

Thanks for the comments. I mostly use Picasa and Neat Image and very rarely turn to PhotoShop, only because I haven't learnt it the right way yet. As for these pics, I did the following:

InPicasa, under the 'tuning' section, Iincreased the 'highlight' quite a bit and shadows a little bit. That improves the contrast to our liking, much better than the auto contrast improvement offered under the 'basic fixes' section. Next, I sharpened the image ('effects' section). I saved the pic, by 'exporting' it. This is the first part.

The next one involves Neat Image, where one may not be always successful because reducing noise is dependent on the quality of the original (in this case, saved) picture. Fortunately, you can view the result and change the parameters any number of times until you feel you have got the right amount of noise reduction done.

While I do appreciate the comments, this need not be the perfect method and I am sure others in this forum and elsewhere have better methods. I would also be happy to learn from them.


Will.Blaschko Feb 9, 2006 1:27 PM

Ya, Picasa is very good for birds and flowers. You turn up the fill light and shadows, and it makes the focus stand out much more. Then you can increase or decrease the warmth and saturation.
I've found I get better results when I run neat-image first, and then use Picasa.

Narmer Feb 9, 2006 7:21 PM

Very good pics Stevetracey and nice PP by Raghu.

Steve you can do that with Photoshop (auto contrast or auto color adjustments, but generally these must be partially "undone").

FZ20 often provides too low contrast images, especially at tele.

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