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Old Nov 3, 2006, 11:37 PM   #1
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Karen over at dpr got her V-LUX 1 and I'd like some honest opinions from FZ50 owners. Can you see any difference in the IQ or NR in the V-LUX photos. My V-LUX 1 has not shipped yet and I'd like to know before it does. Thanks in advance for taking the time.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 12:32 AM   #2
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hmmm, thanks
interesting results
thing is, i dont see any images where i would expect to find noise in the first place
but as i recall it, thats what i thought in the fz50 images, and they had excessive venus 3 binning

so is it down to camera settings?
i know in my LC 1 that makes a big difference

edit to add: uh oh
http://www.pbase.com/koo22/image/69612732

the seems in the timberwork joints look a little odd, washouts ?

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 3:19 PM   #3
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Nice images, and I have also seen the other ones on Pbase.

There is no noise although there is the reknowned aggressive NR, but this latter can be annoying (forcing to use RAW) only in a certain cathegory of shoots.
I think the more FZ50 users start to understand their cam and expertusers start to buy FZ50s, the more we'll see great images from it.

IMO no difference between FZ50 and Leica, the latter also has same NR levels on ISO 100.


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My DREAM-FZ60 is a cam similar to the 50 in optics, aperture...

1) With at least 5 LEVELS of Settings adjustments for JPG images
-2 to +2 (or -3 to +3) for a minor effect of Venus III-IV on the jpgs.

2) Useless to dream of F/2.8 all over the zoom range and larger CCD 10Mp:
It'll be a 12Mp, I hope with a 2/3" CCD (they ve never kept same size CCD for 3 years).

3) Metal optics (like FZ10-20) and buttons for meteringmode.

4) Also 4 NiMH would be a good thing (but this is really a dream)-

These possibilities -the first three indeed- make me resist with my FZ20, for that'll be a better cam than 50...
I really hope so.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 3:44 PM   #4
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Was hoping to see any improvement between the leica and tha pana, but ... don't see it. :sad:

Just as a sidenote,
they are promoting the V-LUX 1 in my neighborhood as a dslr:? and I even was dumb enough to go into that shot and try to tell them it wasn't. They didn't believe me, how can a leica be anything than a great dslr.

Narmer, hope your dreamsettings come true.

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I can't say if there is any difference or not because every shooting situation is different. My guess is, there will be little or no difference other than in something like colors. What I did do is go out a few minutes ago and take a shot with the FZ50 at each ISO. I shot burst mode but than just took the first shot from each burst. The shots were taken after 4:00 pm they were hand held, 420mm, at about 60 to 70 feet, p mode, auto WB, spot focus, every thing standard except noise reduction was low. I re-sized each and gave each one bump of sharpening. I am not trying to sell the FZ50 just trying to give you a little more information. Hope it helps.
Ypu can see the shots here. http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n...;addtype=local
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Thanks for your thoughts everybody and thanks tcook for the shots you posted. I'm still trying to figure out what to do.

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Old Nov 5, 2006, 1:55 AM   #7
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if you look at the EXIF for the station image i mentioned earlier, i see softness set to normal, that seems to me to be a tad unwise given the subject

given some latitude could we say that the photographer hasnt setup right ?
venus engine to low thanks....

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