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Old Feb 10, 2007, 2:57 PM   #11
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This might be a stupid question but I have never shot in RAW. Do you have to process it in a different way from a photo shot in JPEG? I have Microsoft Digital Image and I also use the free version of Picasa for PP so far. Like I said, not sure if there is a different way you have to PP or not? I currently have a Panasonic FZ30.
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If you use Picasa nothing changes. Picasa reads Panasonic RAW files and everything else is the same. For a freebie it is terrific. Don't know about Digital Image. As you would have seen from that link you posted, the specialise RAW converters get in at an earlier stage in the process. This allows you as HarjTT says to adjust white balance and exposure if you get it wrong. and then still have all fo the other options you still have.
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 4:01 PM   #12
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I came across this thread over on the lieca forum over CS3 and LR beta 4.1, pretty interesting in that the OP states that CS3 produces images better than LR Beta 4.1. Greg Chappell over on the OLy forum has switched from Capture One to CS3 beta beacuse he's getting better quality images from CS3. I'd expect to see LR v1.0 to be able to produce the same as CS3 when its finally out.

http://www.leica-camera-user.com/dig...rofile-m8.html

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Old Feb 10, 2007, 4:02 PM   #13
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 4:03 PM   #14
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3. Capture 1 - from Phase One.


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Old Feb 10, 2007, 6:16 PM   #15
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Once again, Harjitt and all, thanks for the info...when the weather warms up, I'll have to try and shoot in RAW. Only thing is the amount of room that it takes up on the chip when the maximum an FZ-30 will tke is 2GB.
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funny, after all this time i've never taken a shot in RAW, even with my 30D. haven't felt the need to. i don't seem to have problems with the WB - the camera's auto WB seems to work beautifully - and with the Canon, noise isn't an issue. i usually am able to control the exposure well enough with ISO and shutter/aperture settings, and find i really don'tget that many shotsthat are so under- or overexposed that tinkering in RAW would be useful. am i missing something here? is there something else about RAW that makes the result inherently better than JPEG? or is it just that you can mess with everything in PP, rather than having some of it done in-camera? i have yet to see any visible difference between JPEG and RAW photos in print...
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 12:12 PM   #17
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Hi Squirrl

The e1 does very good jpeg's indeed and I'd say its WB and exposure is usally pretty accurate, although I can't make a comparison with a Canon or a Nikon and both use larger APS-C sensors with Canon's being very good at low noise. Shooting RAW allows me to be able to shoot at a higher such as ISO800 and produce a better image with less noise than if I shot it as an in cam jpeg (all of my in cam settings are set to low). As I don't have any form of IS other than myself I find that in certain circumstances usually lowlight I'm shooting at a very low speed (1/3s handheld) and at a higher ISO or I'm having to undersexpose by at least -1EV to -2 and shooting in RAW definetly helps, eps if theres multiple differnt light sources (shop windows, street lights etc). I'm not stating its the best format to use for everyone as its a matter of personal taste as well and depends on how much work your willing to put into it (I'm actually do less PP than I was with the FZ10). As the FZ's are using an even smaller sensor I'd be fairly sure that in certain circumstances shooting RAW would give you a better image. An article on Luminous landscape stated that shooting in RAW - was the equivalent to having your film negative where as jpeg files were the same as a just having the final print from developers who kept the negative.


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Raw Shooter Essentials is still available as a totally free download for a short time still.

Soon those who bought the premium version of Raw Sooter will be upgraded to the Adobe Light Room version 1, many kicking and screaming. Its a shame.

RSE introduced me to RAW and I was amazed and still am. Those who haven't tried the totally free RSE are missing out. Simple as that.

I was a beta LR tester and with many others lament what has happened to Pixmantec. I'm sure a lot of money was made, but a fine program was lost. Not even the ghost of RS is visible in LR.

Raw Shooter is a simple, intuitive, blazing fast, very powerful tiny program. Light Room is a gigantic program, full of features that acts like the rest of Adobe's editors in their infancy.

LR Beta 4.1 is ending as LR Version 1 is about to be released and Pixmantec will be gone forever.

Light Room can deal with jpeg as well as RAW. Raw Shooter only deals with RAW.

With Adobe as the gold standard of editors I expected much more when they bought Pixmantec and started development on Light Room.

Just my 2 cents and fully expect many to disagree, that fine. The only real losers are those who keep shooting in jpeg. Memory is cheap now, and conversion to TIFF, jpeg, whatever is what these programs are all about.

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Here's the link for anyone wanting to give Rawshooter Essential a go, here's the link:

http://pixmantec.cachefly.net/RawShooterEssentials.exe

Its only available as a windows app but its still free to download.


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