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Old Jun 11, 2008, 9:58 AM   #11
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It did work......and it appears you used a funtion such as save for web that stripped the exif info........but I can not be sure of what but the exif is not included.
Gene, is there more EXIF data that I miss on my pictures also then? If I click on "More Properties" I see as much data as I see for my pictures.

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Old Jun 11, 2008, 12:24 PM   #12
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I am not sure how to answer that but this is the exif I get from a FZ18 photo using Kuso exif reader.....and I got almost nothing from the photo at flickr.



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It did work......and it appears you used a funtion such as save for web that stripped the exif info........but I can not be sure of what but the exif is not included.
Gene, is there more EXIF data that I miss on my pictures also then? If I click on "More Properties" I see as much data as I see for my pictures.

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Standard Information
Make: Panasonic
Model: DMC-FZ18
Software: Ver.1.0
ImageSize: 2560x1920
ComponentsConfiguration: YCbCr
CreateDate: 2007:12:14 02:14:42
ModifyDate: 2007:12:14 02:14:42
DateTimeOriginal: 2007:12:14 02:14:42
ExposureTime: 1/80"
Aperture: F3.6
MaxAperture: F2.8
CircleOfConfusion: 0.004 mm
HyperfocalDistance: 21.84 m
ExposureProgram: Program AE
ExposureBiasValue: 0
CompressedBitsPerPixel: 4
MeteringMode: Center-weighted average
Flash: Off
ISO: 100
WhiteBalance: Auto
FocalLength: 17.5mm
FocalLength35efl: 17.5mm (35mm equivalent: 135.0mm)
SensingMethod: One-chip color area
SceneType: Directly photographed
ColorSpace: sRGB
NoiseReduction: Unknown (3)
Contrast: Normal
Saturation: High
Sharpness: Hard

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Audio: No
BurstMode: Low/High Quality
ColorEffect: Off
ColorMode: Normal
Compression: JPEG (old-style)
CustomRendered: Custom
DigitalZoomRatio: 0
Directory: I:\My Documents\FZ18\Horse
ExifImageLength: 1920
ExifImageWidth: 2560
ExifVersion: 0221
ExposureMode: Auto
FNumber: 3.6
FileModifyDate: 2007:12:14 03:14:42
FileName: P1000568.JPG
FileSize: 2 MB
FileSource: Digital Camera
FileType: JPEG
FirmwareVersion: 0.1.0.5
FlashBias: 0
FlashpixVersion: 0100
FocalLengthIn35mmFormat: 135mm
FocusMode: Auto
GainControl: None
ImageHeight: 1920
ImageQuality: High
ImageStabilizer: On, Mode 2
ImageWidth: 2560
InternalSerialNumber: (S03) 2007:10:11 no. 0693
InteropIndex: R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
InteropVersion: 0100
JFIFVersion: 1.2
LightSource: Unknown (0)
LightValue: 10.0
MacroMode: Off
MaxApertureValue: 2.8
Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
ResolutionUnit: inches
Rotation: Horizontal (normal)
ScaleFactor35efl: 7.7
SceneCaptureType: Standard
SelfTimer: Off
SequenceNumber: 1
ShootingMode: Program
ShutterSpeed: 1/80
SpotMode: Unknown (1 0)
ThumbnailLength: 8714
ThumbnailOffset: 8114
TravelDay: n/a
XResolution: 300
YCbCrPositioning: Co-sited
YResolution: 300

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Old Jun 11, 2008, 1:13 PM   #13
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Wow thats a really big difference! you can see a lot more detail.

Would you mind telling me what you did?

I am still very much learning, the FZ18 is my first real camera...

You mentioned the lens hood, would it have had this much effect on the image if i had it on?
Let me touch on the hood first.......the hood can protect the lens from any stray light which can come from most anywhere, the ground , grass , the shirt of someone standing near you , ECT, that fools the cameras metering system and can result in low contrast photos.... It does not happen in every photo but it does harm the photos it does happen in.........I use a hood on all my camera and lenses about 99% of the time as I can not tell when there will be a problem and when there will not.

Now about the edit....I opened the photo in capture NX but most all editors could do the same thingI have just grown fond of NX........I then opened a levels adjustment layer and adjusted the black point by moving the left slider to theright and the right slider to the left......That also could have been done in a curves layer.....I just feel levels is easier....... That makes the blacks black and the whites white....

then I applied a high pass filter, but any sharpeningsystem would do the same, and then I removed the sharpening from everything but the car.

To try and make a point here is your histogram with a lack of contrast and the histogram of a photo with lots of contrast.......now if I could get a histogram like the second one on every photo I take I would be thrilled. it is not always easy to do and at times its not possible........and your day may have been very difficult.
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Intersesting stuff...

I will give the lens hood a try next time i do something like this. I am going to an airshow next month so maybe then

Maybe i need to invest in a book about photo editing lol.

I have downloaded gimp but all of the menus seem pretty confusing...

Is CaptureNX a free download, maybe i could give it a try

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Intersesting stuff...

I will give the lens hood a try next time i do something like this. I am going to an airshow next month so maybe then

Maybe i need to invest in a book about photo editing lol.

I have downloaded gimp but all of the menus seem pretty confusing...

Is CaptureNX a free download, maybe i could give it a try

I tried answering before and the server ate my reply, I am such a slow typer I hope this works this time.

I would start off using the hood all the time.....can you see a camera or lens mfg just throwing something in the box that cost money but serves no purpose....the could just add an extra batter or two if the wanted to spend some money.

anyway you will be able to make your own decision about the hood a little later down the road.

The first book I read on Photo editting was "Photoshop for Dummies"......there is a ton of info out there for PS but also there is some for most all editors use GOOGLE to find some info......Gimp is a fine tool but the last I looked, it not very user friendly..... But there is a lot of info and tutorials available on the web for most all editors..... some good ones include Paint shop pro, PS Elements and even Picasa (free) would permit you to do what I did to that photo.

if you have time to waste here are a couple links to show what PS can do.

I use NX as I have some Nikon cameras that I shoot mostly in RAW and NX is the best Raw editor for Nikon cameras but that is not the case for Panasonic cameras......I use PSCS3 for the few RAW files I have from Panasonic cameras.

I also wanted to add there are free trials of almost all editors for you to examine the product.....

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