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Old Oct 3, 2003, 9:13 PM   #41
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Nathcoo,
Does the lens have threads on it so a filter can be attached? I've always been a firm believer of protecting the lens, and I cannot tell from the pictures whether it is threaded or not.

Also, it was stated that it uses the same battery as the FZ1 however according to the specs from panasonic the FZ1 uses (680 mAh, 3.6V) and the FZ10 uses (1400 mAh, 7.2V), so how is it the same battery?

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Old Oct 3, 2003, 10:19 PM   #42
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Am I missing something or is there no manual exposure mode? Both of my 5Mp cameras have both aperture and shutter priority and I seldom use them. Portrait mode gives maximum blur for the background and sports or action mode optimizes the shutter speed for action shots. But I use manual mode almost as often as program. Is this just another P&S camera? If it is truly an auto-only camera I think there is a lot of room for someone like Oly to make an IS competitor for someone other than beginners.

I also donít see a panorama assist mode either and the camera comes with panorama software. How is one expected to take panos without either manual or pano modes? Even beginners need something to fix the exposure for panoramas.

What is the resolution of the EVF? Most manufacturers list that.

Is it true that the camera has a real time histogram but doesnít display it in the EVF? A real time histogram only in the LCD is next to useless IMO. Few people shoot using the LCD Ė especially with a 12X optical zoom. One of my cameras has a real time histogram in the EVF and I always display it as it is an excellent tool. Maybe the resolution of the EVF isnít good enough to display the histogram and still give a good view?

Iím also curious about a lens thread. Removable lens caps are a pain and I usually leave them in a drawer, but you need something like a UV filter to protect the lens if you do that.

I really like that it has continuous focus. One of my cameras has it and the other doesnít. The difference is dramatic when you are shooting perpetual motion rugrats or candids at a party or gathering.

Iím hoping the pre-release information is incomplete. I would really like to have the camera, but if it is auto exposure only Iíll have to wait for competitors to come up with something for intermediate photographers. I could live without the histogram in the EVF and even keep track of a separate lens cap, but auto-only is for beginners.
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Old Oct 3, 2003, 10:26 PM   #43
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It does have aperture and shutter priority, as well as full manual mode.

Babelfishing this page shows some info on that:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...%2Fmanual.html

The other links on the page have some other spec info not found in the USA press release.
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Old Oct 4, 2003, 12:28 AM   #44
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It does have aperture and shutter priority, as well as full manual mode.

Babelfishing this page shows some info on that:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...%2Fmanual.html

The other links on the page have some other spec info not found in the USA press release.
Thanks for the link. I like the manual zoom feature in the EVF. Most cameras make you select the zoom view although there is no way to manually focus without it. Wonder why they didnít put info like manual mode on their English specs site.

I went to all the links but there are still things not covered.

Do you know anything about file formats? Raw? Does it have a panorama assist mode? I can do without the pano assist as long as it has manual.

I donít see a plus or minus in the manual assist. Is the little thing next to the battery an exposure indication?

Are there custom modes? I use them often on my other cameras.

Canít wait now for a good review of a production camera. I hope they can get it out for the Christmas season. I think it should be a big seller. I just read where Sony isnít going to have their 828 out by Christmas Ė big hit in sales for them. Wish they had gone 640 X 480 for the movies on the FZ10.
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Old Oct 6, 2003, 9:23 AM   #45
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Nathcoo,
Does the lens have threads on it so a filter can be attached? I've always been a firm believer of protecting the lens, and I cannot tell from the pictures whether it is threaded or not.
I'm not Nathcoo, but judging by the photos FZ10 uses the same system as FZ1/2 - you screw off one metal ring and screw on an adapter. then you can screw anything on it (including the supplied lens hood, at least in FZ1). it looks as if in case of silver FZ10 (picture on this thread) this metal ring is already off.
the cool thing with FZ10 is that optional specialised converters screw on directly, while with FZ1/2 you have to screw them (like Olympus tcon) to an adapter.
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Old Oct 6, 2003, 11:10 AM   #46
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:01 pm Post subject: Panasonic Bob please elaborate on autofocussing

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You guys need to chill out! I've never seen so many speculations and conclusions based on preliminary information.
Stefan,
My testin shows that the AF speed is virtually the same as FZ1, perhaps a bit faster. Tyere are many people who are concerned about AF speed in low light. As I have explained, the basis of AF operation uses image detail. In low light the physics aspects tells us that visible detail will decrease. Given less information to work with, AF speed will decrease.

Since joining these discussions I've found that many requests or customer's understanding is based on whatthey would like, not necessarily what's possible. If some of you out there have an engineering understanding perhaps you can elaborate on this. I simply don't have enough time to engage in lengthy discussions. Here's the basics....

In low light the first thing you loose is color. As the light (illumination) decreases the signal to noise performance decreases. That reslts in a noisy picture. Low lighted and shadow areas will show the noise first.

JPG images are compressed, and the compression has loss of image quality associated with it.
Digital Noise Reduction can improve the overall look, but using it will require longer image processing times. It becomes a delicate balance of quantity or quality.

If camera features are designed to improve performance in any of the above areas, something else will suffer as you only have som much to work with.

In selecting ANY CAMERA, do yourself a favo and evaluate it YOURSELF - the way you will use it. Honestly, I see no valid reason why anyone would be disecting images ay 200 - 400% overthe normal viewing size. It's simply not the way you view images. If your needs are to print large posters than printing the image would be a meaningful test for YOUR decision process.

Hope this helps... I will share more info as it's received,but there is still a lot that has to be done.



Bob,

Indeed I'm quite annoyed by all the people bashing especially the two fontain sample shots. The other shots look WAY better and nobody is talking about those.

Could you _please_ elaborate on one item which is up to now not mentioned: auto-focussing: speeds, shutter lag, low-light focussing, what kind of focussing system is used?

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Old Oct 9, 2003, 5:20 AM   #47
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it looks like the software is made for pc only. :-( i have an iMac.
the other comment: i was expecting the new model will be able to save pictures also in other than jpeg format :-(
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I've a FZ1.
I've a PC and an iMac too and the software for the FZ1 runs well on PC and on iMac
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Old Oct 9, 2003, 10:10 AM   #49
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Panasonic Bob,

Do you know if the accessory lenses will be released in the USA? I'd like to get the 1.5x teleconverter, but it's not listed on the Panasonic site when you click "Accessories" on the FZ-10K.

Just knowing that it's planned for release would be great, but if you have access to pricing info that would be even better.

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Old Oct 9, 2003, 10:56 AM   #50
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I've a FZ1.
I've a PC and an iMac too and the software for the FZ1 runs well on PC and on iMac
Setsan, ArcSoft also makes Macintosh OS 9 & X versions of much of their software, so don't be surprised to see the Mac Versions included.

ArcSoft PhotoBaseô is Windows only (but you can already get "iphoto" for free if you don't have it) but ArcSoft PhotoImpressionô and ArcSoft Panorama Makerô are Mac compatible, so that is a non issue. Visit http://www.arcsoft.com if you want more info. Panasonics software package is comparable to that from other manufacturers.
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