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Old Oct 1, 2010, 3:44 PM   #1
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Got this earlier when I was leaving home for work. I was shooting last night in ISO 800 and I had left it on in the manual mode that I like to shoot in. Full manual mode, ISO 800 shot, 1/250th shutter speed, straight out of camera, no post processing, no incamera processing..

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Do you think there is way too much noise? I'm asking because sometimes I want to get very fast shutter speeds (like to get the rider of the bicycle complete with no motion blur) so I wonder if ISO 800 might be a stretch to achieve that or its perfect if picture is resized to a smaller size for viewing like this:







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Old Oct 1, 2010, 3:51 PM   #2
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What camera model is it? If it is a small sensor camera (such as FZ38) then this is a phenomenal PIX, particularly for such a high ISO.

Seems to me some are becoming spoiled and expecting DSLR performance (or blood from a turnip) from these cameras.
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Old Oct 1, 2010, 4:10 PM   #3
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Jake - that looks very good for ISO 800. I think a little post processing would add some "snap" to it.
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Old Oct 1, 2010, 4:50 PM   #4
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What camera model is it? If it is a small sensor camera (such as FZ38) then this is a phenomenal PIX, particularly for such a high ISO.

Seems to me some are becoming spoiled and expecting DSLR performance (or blood from a turnip) from these cameras.
It is indeed an FZ35 (or 38), yes. You can probably read the model name with an exif viewer.

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Jake - that looks very good for ISO 800. I think a little post processing would add some "snap" to it.
Thank you Clint. Yes I knew I could make it better (like with picasa as you suggested) but I wanted to show it completely unchanged so I could get opinions on if ISO 800 is usable at that shutter speed incase I want some fast action captures.
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I took a look at the uncompress 6mb file, and even in decent lighting there is a decent amount of noise. Especially in the leaves and darker areas. The compress hides it better.
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Here's a pic of a pileated woodpecker at dusk. I had my Panasonic z35 set on 'p' with an 800iso limit and set to slightly overexpose. I had waited over an hour for this rare bird to show up at my father in laws and had given up as the sun had slipped below the horizon and there was only minutes of light left. All of a sudden there it was, and I shot from a sun porch about 25 feet away with a sliding glass door open a few inches.

There's youtube video link of it also, if anyone is interested pileated2. I took a few shots, switched to video and shot a couple thirty second segments of video, and as I went back to shoot pics it flew off.

I thought the z35 did a pretty decent job with the grain at 800, and I used unsharp max once at its default setting in Photoshop CS2. And of course downsized resolution and size to post here.
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Mesmerizing and Beautiful.

Did you record it in mpg or avchd?
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Jake and Franko

Both ISO 800 photos are quite acceptable and show what the FZ-35 can do.

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Mesmerizing and Beautiful.

Did you record it in mpg or avchd?
avchd - although I lowered the resolution to 720 and edited in a shareware program called Moyea Video Converter before uploading to youtube.


Here's a better picture; again, reduced resolution for upload.

If I had been trying to shoot pictures of this bird with my Nikon D90, the shutter noise would have spooked it off as it doesn't have a 'quiet mode' feature, so the Panasonic FZ35 is nice and quiet for bird pictures. Those are bluebird pellets in the feeder, woodpeckers of all kinds love them - they contain beef suet, peanuts and raisins. Red bellies, ladderbacks, downies, hairies and nuthatches are regular visitors. My inlaws had lived there 30 years and never saw a pileated until May of this year.
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I wonder why Panasonic cannot match high iso of a pocket camera like Fuji F30. It is much bigger in size but still is terrible compared to iso800 or 1600 of Fuji F30.
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