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Old Jan 26, 2012, 7:54 PM   #1
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i was looking through some old pics i took earlier this month, looking for one i could practice pp on, when i found this rather sad looking picture. setting myself a challenge decided to attempt a HDR look and bring more colour and light to the image. only got elements 7 at my disposal this week due to cs5 being on my other pc and its poorly.

am i getting the idea, or am i missing the point?

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Old Jan 26, 2012, 8:05 PM   #2
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even without a teleconverter, this little camera makes me smile. that coastguard boat was a good half mile out at least and still i could read "guard" clearly.

mind you, teleconverter is on the wish list along with a good macro

hope youre reading this wifey
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Old Jan 26, 2012, 8:47 PM   #3
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Those wind turbines are awesome! I really wish more places around here would embrace them.
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Here in Kent, most of our coastline has windfarms. I haven't seen many more in other parts of England though
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Dear John, I think a good experiment to give light and color to your first image, perhaps to make the colors more realistic, in the second image down a little 'purple hue of the sky and the intensity of light! Good job!
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 6:17 AM   #6
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thanks alex, i'll keep trying and one day i'll be a pp jedi like you
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The first picture probably looks more hdr than the second, as hdr tends to squash down brightness, making mid tines more muddy believe it or not. But then the camera internals, or you, can play with it to brighten it up. The burn out in the sky to the left hand edge is often an indicatiin of lower dynamic range. What really is needed is more bits to preserve toning during the process, 10 bit image instead of 8 is minimum, but 16 is far better. Consumer cameras tend to go for 8 bit images. Still, I like the way it same out, keep it up, but you need to squash the bright and low end of the curve into fewer bits without burning out or going black, to give more space to stretch out the middle. Maybe you can set the maximum level down a bit so not to loose the sky, but that will make pure whites less bright.

But what you are doing makes me wonder, if there could be software that could attempt a hdr expansion of images. Even though burned out or backed parts of an image loose detail, there should often be small slight details that need through and a be expanded on, in video exposure hunting can reveal lots of details as well as spikes in performance of individual pixels and noise that could have a component of detail in them. Big sophisticated techniques some of these, but could be done.
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It's definitely nicer than the original but not quite what I'd call an HDR effect. There is maybe a slight lightening of the shadows but mostly it looks like increased colour saturation. The treatment below isn't necessarily any better but it's more of what I'd call an HDR look with every part of the image having a wider range of tones. This was with AutoHDR2.1.5 which is also free for windows if you'd like to try it. (Settings 7,5,7,5,5,8,7)

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In the first photo, I can't tell if there's an old drain pipe coming out of the rocks or are you pouring a bottle of wine. The flare at the point where it "seems" to intersect with the rock leads me to believe it was a bottle?
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Its a drain pipe, i cropped it out on my pp because i as trying to take the horizon away from the center of the image and get closer to the law of thirds. That, and it looks like a bottle of wine
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