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Old Aug 18, 2004, 1:34 PM   #11
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The lines around the sun in the crane shot are definitely JPG artifacts....

Edit: I take it back. The JPG artifacts were present only on the web page and not after downloading the image to my computer.

I see what you are talking about. The lines look as though they might be a result of some kind of internal reflections or interference in the CCD itself – but I really don't know.

Since it only occurs on bright and overexposed areas it is pretty easy to select out the sky or sun and apply something like smart blur in Photoshop. It takes the lines right out without affecting anything else.

These are the lines for anyone who doesn't want to spend half a day with the site timing out before it finally displays:


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 1:57 PM   #12
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I agree, the JPEG compression is just too harsh on the FZ10. Panasonic Bob!!?? We need you to get the ball rolling on a firmware update

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Old Aug 19, 2004, 2:45 AM   #13
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I see these artifacts not only on web pages. I used Photoshop, ACDSEE, Infranview, and internal WinXP viewer and clearly saw lines.
It also may depends on monitor calibration . On some monitors artifacts are barely seen, but zoomig helps to see them.
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 1:34 PM   #14
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Post some photos that are properly exposed.

A camera is designed to operate where photos are properly exposed. Pointing a camera at the sun will severely overload the CCD, not to mention risk damaging the chip. Who is taking photos of the sun?

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"This would be similar to pumping in high level audio into the line input of an audio amplifier and complaining about distortion.
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Old Aug 20, 2004, 12:24 PM   #15
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I`ve posted the normal exposured photo whith artifacts. You can see lines on the top of white vegetable (use zoom to clearly see artifacts).
Photo(last one) is here
http://photoes-bad.narod.ru/photo.html

As this problem is mentioned in the review on Cnet, I think you should pay more attention to it.
http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_Lu...6.html?tag=top

I have never seen such a problem on any other (even cheap and noname) cameras!
It is definitely the jpeg compression problem!
It exists and it is obvious!
And this problem is really easy to solve!

P.S. Why don`t you ask Cnet guys (testers) about this problem ( they OFFICIALLY put the review, describing artifacts on light objects on their site!)
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Old Aug 30, 2004, 2:10 AM   #16
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What about the normal exposured photo with artifacts?

(http://photoes-bad.narod.ru/photo.html - the right one)
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